Time travelling machine for real?

[Firetooth]

The following is from the sun:

WE could soon be visited by TIME TRAVELLERS — thanks to a £2billion machine able to punch a HOLE in the universe.

The atom-smasher may open up a time tunnel for people from the future to travel back to now.

The particle accelerator, called the Large Hadron Collider, has been designed to explore the origins of the universe by investigating the tiniest components of atoms.

It is due to be switched on in May.



Big Bang boffin ... Dr Volovich

It will accelerate particles to the speed of light — then smash them together to recreate conditions from the first fraction of a second after the Big Bang, which created the universe.

But each particle — a trillionth the size of a mosquito — will create a shockwave distorting time and space around it.

And Russian mathematicians Igor Volovich and Irina Aref'eva say this may tear the fabric of the universe and result in a "wormhole" linking our time with the future.

Phantom
The laws of physics suggest that no one from the future will be able to travel back any further than when the machine was switched on — with 2008 being Year Zero.

Dr Volovich, of the Steklov Mathematical Institute in Moscow, reckons future technology may be advanced enough to send someone back through the time tunnel.

He told the magazine New Scientist: "If a combination of fast-moving particles and phantom energy does create a wormhole, an advanced civilisation could find it in their history books, pinpoint the moment — and take advantage of their technology to pay us a visit."



And some boffins think it may be possible for people of our time to travel years ahead — like TV Timelord Doctor Who.

The machine is based in a vast underground laboratory at the CERN particle physics centre in Geneva, Switzerland.



Do you really think this will be able to allow time travel. Quite blankly I think no, but it is regardless an interesting topic.

[wolf bite]

Some of us believe that time is a constant.  That at this moment in the same space, the world is being created and the end of the world is happening.  This is much like shooting a laser through a sheet of glass, you can place a million pictures on the same one dot of the glass and depending on how you hold the glass, a different picture will show up.  An example of this would be a hologram.

Anyway, if a time machine could ever be created, then why are we not seeing people with space suits walking down the street?  That would be because no one in the future has ever been able to come to the past. I agree, there is no proof that a person will never be able to go ahead in time. But it seems if we can prove no one came back, then assuming it would be a one way trip, although the same theory would be use, counter acts the concept.


Wolf Bite

[Arguia Zsah]

The Sun? Honestly? Read a decent paper! =o

Hehe.

Always take the Sun with a large pinch of salt ;)

[Firetooth]

The Sun? Honestly? Read a decent paper! =o

Hehe.

Always take the Sun with a large pinch of salt ;)

Nah I saw it first on virgin media's site.
Like most stories, it barely lasts a day before a new one takes it's place ;)

So I relocated the story to the head of all poor quality rigged newspapers...the sun!

Some of us believe that time is a constant.  That at this moment in the same space, the world is being created and the end of the world is happening.  This is much like shooting a laser through a sheet of glass, you can place a million pictures on the same one dot of the glass and depending on how you hold the glass, a different picture will show up.  An example of this would be a hologram.

Anyway, if a time machine could ever be created, then why are we not seeing people with space suits walking down the street?  That would be because no one in the future has ever been able to come to the past. I agree, there is no proof that a person will never be able to go ahead in time. But it seems if we can prove no one came back, then assuming it would be a one way trip, although the same theory would be use, counter acts the concept.


Wolf Bite

Or maybe the russains just watched doctor who :D
Still if people believed this would work it would get a lot more publicity...I merely came across the story by chance.

[Gorak]

this is the stupidest thing I've heard in a while
my vote is that the thing blows up, and other then that, nothing happens

[Shadow]

No, the collider is real, but I don't think there will be any time travelling. That is just sensationalist newspapers picking up the the fact that there is a tiny mathematical possibility that when this thing turns on it will create a black hole at the point of collision. The collider will, however, be very useful for the original purpose of the experiment, which was to try to simulate the big bang on a subatomic level.

[Firetooth]

Techincally time is lineal (or believed to be)
So it is possible that we could speed up time so fast that we could reach the future.
But nobody would know since you would not be able to travel back again.
Which is why people believe this will work. I still however think why waste £bil (or $4 bil, yes I got the wrong amount of money spent from the sun ::)) on a load of metal which will not benefit us really in any way? So what if we go forward in time, we cannot go backwards again. People complain about africa and whatnot and then I get mad when I see all that money in my view just thrown away.

[Shadow]

So it is possible that we could speed up time so fast that we could reach the future.

How? You could speed up relative time by going close to the speed of light (which we can't do), but that would only affect the people who are going fast. To them it would seem like they had travelled to the future, but all the time would still have passed and it would therefore be pointless. That is not time travel, that is relativity, which has little or no direct connection to the wormhole travel talked about in the article beyond pure mathematics.