The Game is dead!

[Alazar is Back]

Onlining, its everywhere, im so [wash my mouth out!!!] sick and tired of it, i have an attempted kill run about 30 murders and get onlined by 2 people at the same time from different clans. I did nothing to neither of them. I captured leaders from Super Nova and he murdered the crap out of me. What the [haties] is wrong with this game and most of the players? I will spend this whole set ruining and killing people, i cant [flippin] take it anymore, you want a piece, well now you just got the whole enchilada baby!

EDIT: Now i go on reg and i have firetooths supposedly brother sacking me every run and attacking me down to 2k land unprevoked. This i believe has got to be a violation of the rules if i am correct. I have been fairly nice besides to kell but im about to really make you people pay for it.





(fake swears are still swears, alazar, please don't test our filter) - PA

[Firetooth]

IF you mess with me i will kill you plain and simple, anything dirty and your dead i am sick and tired of people thinking they can walk all over me its bull!!!
On alazars page is the above:


Maybe becauese you treat me like im a  idiot?
Note taken wolf bite, im just in a bad mood
Fri, 01 Feb 2008 12:46:54 -0700
From: Avatar of Pain (#26)
There is no war unless the leader declares it god you are the biggest idoit i have ever met!


You are getting what you deserve, you said my brother should die for sacking you. Kell asked my brother and offered to pay to attack you (I found out from pip) maybe you sgould stop sacking others first?
Leave if you want, I dont mind if you stay as long as you'll quit being such a rude (firetooth uses some very colourful language at this point) hehem *calms down*
You wonder why I dub you the noob bullier? Several reasons:
You call me an idiot because I almost kill you, why?
Because shade said that wrath and armarda were having a kill war, and that I should kill if I want survive.

Thu, 31 Jan 2008 11:30:25 -0700
From: Avatar of Vengeance (#6)
we will almost certainly be striking to kill, if you want to survive, I suggest you do liekwise


Thu, 31 Jan 2008 11:29:10 -0700
From: Firetooth (#25)
Most likely not, in the war should it be kill runs or no kill runs?


Thu, 31 Jan 2008 11:27:55 -0700
From: Avatar of Vengeance (#6)
*shrug* I didn't even know what alazar was planning til recently, in fact i dont even have him permission to declare war yet, im just assuming it wont bother him XD


Thu, 31 Jan 2008 11:22:59 -0700
From: Firetooth (#25)
It is his choice, like I said before you were using him, he might not have remembered or not seen it appropriate to say until next round, do you seriously think I thought Alazar wasn't planning revenge for the kill run?


Thu, 31 Jan 2008 11:21:09 -0700
From: Avatar of Vengeance (#6)
I informed pip of my intentions of war a week before the end of last set, he shouldve informed you a long time ago what we intended to do


Secondly, you do bully noobs alot.
Thirdly, you insult me every time I attack you, quit going mental, I will not insult anymore, waste your words on someone who cares.
This topic is a joke, alazar quit being a hypocrite, my brother does not have much to do with this (that I know of) and was not attacking you in anway because I told him to. Ask pip, taek, or anyone in my brother's clan, kell is going to pay him for that. Your so quick to assume I'm in the wrong, when you are. You only get onlined because you make yourself unpopular, kill me if you want, see if I care, intrestingly, shade threatens to kill bob-sama if he stays in armarda, but then once I kick him to help him out, you offer him to join your clan and aid him. Please in future think before you post.
Also, the avatars were a group (excluding avatar of malice) made to kill me. Then alazar gets angry because I wreck him?
~Firetooth~

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[Shade]

Also, the avatars were a group (excluding avatar of malice) made to kill me. Then alazar gets angry because I wreck him?
~Firetooth~

Actually the Avatar's were a group made to work together to accomplish whatever goals we decide to make for ourselves, right now the goal happens to be a war. So yes we do intend to war with and possibly (probably, now) kill you, but don't assume that is out sole purpose in coming together, if all we really wanted was to kill you, I assure you neither Alazar or myself would require a clan of friends to do so.

[windhound]

You honestly want to know whats killing the game?
Over attacking.  Not online attacking, over attacking.

Supr Nova is mine
you hit me around 40x within the first day I was out of protection, and you hit me with capture.  I hadnt attacked you at that point either, so there was no cause for it
your second run you took me down to 3k acres, there was plenty of other land, but you took me down to 3k acres.

rather than whine I took revenge the only way I could. 
you had no land left, no leaders to capture, no cash to take, no food to poison.  you had troops, so I killed them
you had your defenses up, so I had to do it 3x as much to get my intended effect

back the [yes, wash my mouth out] off
learn to be a Good player, be efficient with smaller amounts of land so you dont have to hit newbies 60x
twit.

[Firetooth]

True shade, but that was still one your purposes.
Then because you declare war alazar calls me and idiot because only he has "that right" or whatever it is. Id previously stated can't he put it behind him that I killed him? I would've enjoyed a war, but Im fed up of being insulted of the pm system. If it keeps up this way I may stop turboing, join reg and leave Alazar to it. I also was insulted as "gay" by frylore multiple times a few rounds ago, I think insults should be banned over the pm system or punishment should be given.
Sorry if I have offended anyone, Im am just sick of Alazar.
Edit: Alazar you bullying noobs is killing the game, not you being onlined. It's a game. The point of games is to have fun, not to insult others or drive new people from playing them. True in rwl we get into lots of wars, but they aren't usually because one person couldn't keep their mouth shut.

Thu, 31 Jan 2008 11:15:16 -0700
From: Avatar of Vengeance (#6)
im sure you can scrape up some allies, we'lll prolly be going to war with ARC too, so you'll have allies there, and someone like me going after a newbie clan is rather looked down upon, perhaps some of the higher ups with help you hold the line


This is proving the point of driving noobs away, there was the how mean topic recently, we've got to stop doing this everyone. Alazar's page also does not give an encouraging message of our atidtude to new players, making them scared to ask for aid and whatnot. If I saw that if I'd just joined, Id pack up and leave.
If shade and alazar want a war, feel free to have one, but please do not insult me. This destroys the purpose of the game. Dont get me wrong, the community here rocks, even shade and alazar, but you cannot expect me to be nice to you if your not nice to me and vice versa. Only speaking to alazar here.

[Peace Alliance]

And Alazar, I spoke with Shade and he argued that your attacks last round on newbs were specifically because you really needed land.

But 60 accounts on somebody just out of protection is NOT benificial, it is a waste of your run. If you believe what you are doing is helping you, then Shade /should/ have been nice enough to tell you the truth of it. At some point your attacks are no longer gaining as much for you, as you could be getting on your own.

I like to think that i am a /very/ good land scraper, and last round i managed to get 140k land while putting everyone under 20k. That is a MASSIVE over attack... But i managed to do it without making any huge enemies. There is a reason for that.

People aren't just doing this to you because you aren't following the game "Etiquette". You are going beyond harshness, and actually doing things that harm yourself, JUST so you can harm others who have done nothing to you! I believe you, if you say this is because you thought it was actually helping you. But you shouldn't ever attack someone who isn't an enemy 60 times. It's much MUCH better for you, in almost every single case, to attack 20 times and then start working on your own business.

If you would like further explanation on the efficiency of diplomacy, or how to run your empire better. I'm totally willin to give you lots of pointers. As is, i think it's clear that you are making too many enemies. And you're also being very cruel to members who have just joined the game.

Maybe Shade should be giving you better advice. I /think/ he knows better, he likely isn't telling you the truth of things because what you are doing benefits him.

[Shade]

Why does everyone imply that it's my responsibility to keep Alazar on a leash? I was paying almost no attention to his actions last round, i offered him no advice at all, good or bad, and I am not doing this so his attacks will somehow benefit me, aside from planning what we would do this round, I had no contact with him at all last round. Also realize that on those rare occasions that Alazar actually does come to me asking for advice about something he is planning, I am rarely listened to. Recently he killed kell on reg, I advised him against this, he did it anyways. I have precious little control over anything Alazar does. So for the love of all things holy, stop pointing the finger at me everytime Alazar does somethign stupid!

[Firetooth]

Why does everyone imply that it's my responsibility to keep Alazar on a leash? I was paying almost no attention to his actions last round, i offered him no advice at all, good or bad, and I am not doing this so his attacks will somehow benefit me, aside from planning what we would do this round, I had no contact with him at all last round. Also realize that on those rare occasions that Alazar actually does come to me asking for advice about something he is planning, I am rarely listened to. Recently he killed kell on reg, I advised him against this, he did it anyways. I have precious little control over anything Alazar does. So for the love of all things holy, stop pointing the finger at me everytime Alazar does somethign stupid!

I have actually got to say that Im sort of with shade on this one. Alazar says stupid things in the heat of the moment, it's not like shade should be having to teach a player who's been playing this long courtesy rules. Even I know the courtesy rules (though I often dont use them :P, just joking)
Alazar needs to stop randomly posting a topic whenever something goes wrong, he says I winge and whine as well. Think before you post. This topic in itself is a waste of space and time.
 

[Peace Alliance]

Oh but it's not about what he's said. We all say things... I'm not one to criticize him on that (remembers "young PA")

It's his actions. Shade and him are friends, and Shade knows well enough what his friend keeps getting himself into.

[Firetooth]

Aha, you have a point there, shade cannot literally stop Alazar from doing things, but he should not encourage them ore get invlolved if he knows there wrong.

[Shade]

Alazar also knows well enough what he gets himself into, thing is, he doesn't care about the consequences, if he doesn't, why should I?

[Firetooth]

Beause then topics like this are made, a lot of people get mad, and a lot of pointless kills, murders steals etc. happen.

[Shade]

As I have already said, my interference makes no difference, the same things get done, only difference is when the whole thing blows up on the forums and I did advise him against it I can say that i did and sidestep pointless conversations like this

[Peace Alliance]

Firetooth is actually right. It's a topic like this that tells you Alazar clearly DOES care about the consequences...