Stoats Overpowered?

Badrang the Tyrant · July 05, 2007, 12:09:16 AM

(not sure where to put this)

Are Stoats overpowered? They've got +30% attack power, a positive Indy bonus, great Leader bonus and have hardly any defects. Also, more than half the game population choses to play as a Stoat. Is it because RWLers are so used to doing Leader strats, or are they attracted to the "super" race?

taekwondokid42 · July 05, 2007, 06:19:22 AM

maybe. I definately would choose another race if I was going to indy, but a good question.

I know that stoats no longer get unlimited loyalty, so that brings their power down much. I have to spend 2 turns earning for every 6 turns feasting.

I'm not sure how that usually compares, cause I got here at the very end of reg.

Shadow · July 05, 2007, 11:46:29 AM

the downside is poor loyalty - with a marten i was earning loyalty faster than i could goldmine - not so with stoats

taekwondokid42 · July 05, 2007, 12:07:57 PM

no, in turbo I was gaining loyalty as fast as I was using it. I had about 350mil loyalty when I was killed.

This no loyalty thing is new, and it is cutting down on my gains >=(

But hey, I'm still #1, so why am I complaining?

Wolf Snare · July 05, 2007, 08:33:26 PM

I'll find a reason. :evil:

Shadow · July 05, 2007, 08:41:48 PM

you mean you'll give him a reason? :roll:

Badrang the Tyrant · July 06, 2007, 01:06:46 PM

Quotemaybe. I definately would choose another race if I was going to indy, but a good question.

Well, obviously. But it highly unbalanced to have a master Leader race who's also decent at Indying and who hardly has any negatives to them at all. Methinks Shael was biased when she set up the races. :-P

idunno · July 06, 2007, 01:15:08 PM

Quote from: Wolf Snare on July 05, 2007, 08:33:26 PM
I'll find a reason.? :evil:

Too late.

The Lady Shael · July 06, 2007, 05:02:28 PM

Don't look at me, I'm in charge of Code. I just set them up the way Peace told me to. >.< And my normal race is a weasel, not a stoat...but weasels were given the axe in this new version. =/

Gen. Volkov · July 06, 2007, 07:03:23 PM

Look who's #1 now. LOL. Stoat doesn't seem to bad though. Course I have yet to run as Marten.

White Fang · July 06, 2007, 07:11:25 PM

At the beginning of Turbo, any skilled player should be able to take #1 after a full run.

Shadow · July 06, 2007, 08:51:08 PM

so far marten>stoat - the ratio required to academy is almost the same as that required to gold mine, and after spending all the turns needed to get the ratio, id rather gold mine the rest of my turns then academy and then do a half powered cashing spell. There is also the fact that stoats earn less loyalty then martens

taekwondokid42 · July 07, 2007, 02:25:46 PM

still on vacation...

Did I die?

I fear going on my account cause if I'm alive I don't want to unfreezxe my army.

White Fang · July 07, 2007, 02:53:12 PM

Yes...you died.

Gen. Volkov · July 07, 2007, 05:09:51 PM

I think you were killed taek.

I know Fang, I was just joshing taekwondokid about it.

Shadow, stoat actually gains more loyalty than Marten. Marten has a -10% loyalty modifier, stoat has a 0% modifier.