Intel

idunno · July 24, 2007, 02:28:55 PM

Posting something three times is just flat out redundant.

White Fang · July 24, 2007, 02:49:56 PM

Stoat beats out Marten in just about every aspect.

Cashing:

After only spending a handful of turns on Academy, Stoat can use Loot at 170% effectiveness, but then you add in the fact that they have a 50% bonus to missions, and you have a Loot of 255% effectiveness.

On the other hand, Marten can use Goldmine to cash at 200% effectiveness, and then even adding in their bonus, you still only have 260% effectiveness...but they end up using WAY more loyalty than Stoat does with a few Academies and then simple loots.

The verdict? Stoat beats out Marten at their own game.

Feasting:

Stoat can feast at a 255% effectiveness, but Marten only at 130%.

Leader Missions:

Stoat can launch and defend against leader missions at 255% strength, but Marten only at 130%. (And it's even better than that, since high ratios are particularly effective).

Stats:

Stoat has better offense, defense, build, costs(?--this is a guess, since the game guide is currently messed up in certain areas), loyalty, training, scouting, leadership, and foraging.

Stoat beats Marten hands-down.

Alazar is Back · July 24, 2007, 04:55:27 PM

Im on fangs side, stoat pwns! 8-)

Shadow · July 24, 2007, 04:57:11 PM

i found marten to be much more effective at cashing in the duels round - that may have been down to the location bonuses though - i earned more loyalty than i used when gold mining

Alazar is Back · July 24, 2007, 05:06:06 PM

yeah, that was either a bug or the location bonuses cause if that was possible now then you could make massive amounts of money!

White Fang · July 24, 2007, 07:22:29 PM

It was a massive location bonus not previously (nor thereafter) conferred.

taekwondokid42 · July 24, 2007, 08:58:05 PM

haven't i already made this argument?

White Fang · July 24, 2007, 09:03:23 PM

Umm...no? You merely stated it as indisputable fact, but you didn't include any supporting arguments.

Gen. Volkov · July 25, 2007, 02:56:48 AM

I'm not sure about the 50% bonus being totally accurate, but I can't confirm, we've really had no chance to test these, and the two games move at such different paces it's quite hard to tell. Plus all the land being locked down in reg isn't helping the situation.

Feasting and Leader missions I will agree on, so stoat is beating Marten, but I'm not sure about the cashing bit. Your percentages are off as well, I think. 170% + 50% = 255% how?

White Fang · July 25, 2007, 06:13:28 AM

No, the percentages are not off, because they would stack, rather than concurrently affecting the same base (that being because the 170% IS the base).

So it's adding 50% of 170%, which comes to 255%.

taekwondokid42 · July 25, 2007, 08:54:13 AM

Quote from: White Fang on July 25, 2007, 06:13:28 AM
No, the percentages are not off, because they would stack, rather than concurrently affecting the same base (that being because the 170% IS the base).

So it's adding 50% of 170%, which comes to 255%.

And for those of you who want it broken down even further, lets turn these into numbers

0.5 and 1.7

since 1.7 is the base, we multiply 0.5 times 1.7=.85

add 0.85 to the base of 1.7 to get 2.55.

Wolf Snare · July 25, 2007, 09:15:51 AM

lol yea we got it mate.

kell · July 25, 2007, 09:31:37 AM

am i the only one who plays this game without doing any maths lol

taekwondokid42 · July 25, 2007, 09:48:57 AM

rofl.

The Lady Shael · July 25, 2007, 12:51:43 PM

I stopped playing the game because everyone started using math. =p I'd rather people focus on the rping aspect of the game, instead of equations and ratios and percentages, but that's hard in a game like this. =/