Happy 4th

Ereptor · July 04, 2006, 09:41:02 AM

I know everyone isn't american here but just wanted to wish everyone a Happy 4th!
What are you doing this 4th of July?
Im going to cookout with some coworkers by the pool.
God Bless the USA !

Deathclaw · July 04, 2006, 12:12:33 PM

Barbecue, watching the World Cup semifinal, maybe having friends over or finding a party somewhere tonight.

Peace Alliance · July 04, 2006, 12:31:25 PM

"coworkers"? ... cow orkers? cowor kers? coworke R.S.?

Ereptor · July 04, 2006, 02:03:05 PM

The only reason I have kept my mouth shut about your avatar this long, is because I couldn't have found a more fitting one if I did it myself.? ?:-P i.e peace your annoying

GO GERMANY !

Deathclaw · July 04, 2006, 02:54:33 PM

Ereptor... did you hear the reports about Ballack saying: "We have no chance. Last time we played Italy, they beat us comfortably. They should be heavy favorites."

That would surprise me, I doubt he actually said that. That isn't something you hear from your captain.

Half time of the Germany game, tied 0-0. I am expecting a Germany win, especially if it goes to penalties. But if it does go to penalties, and provided Marcello Lippi is somewhat smart, he will tell his players to shoot the opposite way than they normally do, because Lehmann will be diving to the way they normally go, and will have slips of paper handed to him before each shot so he knows which way to go.

The game has been a good one so far, pretty physical and the ref is keeping the card in his pocket until it needs to come out. Borowski deserved his booking. I'm happy with the performance of this ref so far.

But back on topic... happy fourth everyone!

Gen. Volkov · July 04, 2006, 06:32:30 PM

I hate the World Cup, and not just because the Men's team always loses. I hate soccer. It is the third most boring sport ever invented. Behind Curling and Golf. Well.. not golf when you are playing it, but as spectator sports go, Soccer, Golf, and curling make me want to go stick my hand in an electrical socket.

And Happy 4th everyone. I had a barbecue woth family and I'm gonna light off fireworks tonight.

artu · July 04, 2006, 07:05:02 PM

Quote from: Gen. Volkov on July 04, 2006, 06:32:30 PM
I hate the World Cup, and not just because the Men's team always loses. I hate soccer. It is the third most boring sport ever invented. And Happy 4th everyone. I had a barbecue woth family and I'm gonna light off fireworks tonight.

:-o whats so boring about soccer? yes i admit it is a little bit boring on tv but its fun playing.
and oh yeah this a bit off topic. happy fourth everyone

Deathclaw · July 04, 2006, 11:15:51 PM

Quote from: Gen. Volkov on July 04, 2006, 06:32:30 PM
I hate the World Cup, and not just because the Men's team always loses. I hate soccer. It is the third most boring sport ever invented. Behind Curling and Golf. Well.. not golf when you are playing it, but as spectator sports go, Soccer, Golf, and curling make me want to go stick my hand in an electrical socket.

And Happy 4th everyone. I had a barbecue woth family and I'm gonna light off fireworks tonight.

Soccer is not boring. It is more fast paced than any other sports.

(American) Football: 10 second play, then 40 seconds off to huddle up and say ok guys what are we gonna do next. 30 minute half time, and timeouts. Takes very little fitness with all the breaks.
Baseball: Barely any running, not athletic in terms of fitness, etc. Boring to watch. I can't watch a baseball game straight through.
Basketball: The last ten minutes are all that matters, that is when it is decided.

Soccer is more fast paced, there is constant action and everyone is constantly moving. There is a reason it is called the beautiful game. You actually have to be in shape in soccer, and be able to run for over 10 seconds, unlike football and baseball. Soccer takes athleticism and the ability to think and create things, it is abstract. Football has certain plays and certain people you throw to, etc. Doesn't take much thinking. I could go on and on but I'm tired.

Nohcnonk · July 05, 2006, 01:00:54 AM

Yay.

Aqualis · July 05, 2006, 07:45:47 AM

Happy Post 4th.

I blew up a wine bottle.

Gen. Volkov · July 05, 2006, 12:12:44 PM

20 minute half time, and it requires you to be tremendously fit, because you are giving it your all every play. It may only be for a few seconds, but it requires more exertion in those few seconds than most other sports experience in a few minutes of play. There's a reason that football players are some of the best athletes in the world.

The other two, basketball and baseball.. I don't like to watch. I find baseball boring, unless it's the Cubs in a big game, and basketball is rather boring to watch as well.

Soccer is fun to play, but to watch, it's among the most boring games on earth. 22 men chasing a little ball around a field? No thanks. Also, that's BS that soccer players are in constant motion. They spend just as much time standing around as any other sport. Just because I don't watch soccer doesn't mean I don't know what goes on. I used to play soccer, and I have watched parts of games, or even most of a game because there's nothing else on. Soccer is about the same pace as basketball. And how much thought does running to the ball, kicking it, running to it again, kicking it again, and then kicking it into a net take? Football takes alot more thought. First you have to design the plays. Then the QB has to read the defense, and make adjustments if necessary, then the play starts, and he hands it to the running back or throws it. Sometimes he has to decide which to do. If the running back gets it, he has to break throught the defenses line, and has to work with the offensive line. If the QB throws it, he has to find a reciever, and make sure he's open, then he has to throw the ball well so the reciever can catch and run, and he has to do all this before the defense breaks through the offensive line and tackles him. And that's just the offense, and not even the whole story. All this takes brains, tremendous athleticism, and a good coach. And like I said, there's so much more to it. I could go on and on as well.

artu · July 05, 2006, 12:18:53 PM

hear hear DC :-D

Gen. Volkov · July 05, 2006, 01:41:06 PM

Ah, poo on you artu.

Deathclaw · July 05, 2006, 02:27:15 PM

Still football has PLAYS. Soccer is abstract. And in soccer you are in constant motion. If you are swinging the ball around in the back, your keeper is moving to be in a position to drop, the defenders are moving side to side, the midfield is checking into space, etc. If you are in the attack, the fullbacks overlap with the midfielders. You don't just stand there at any point. In soccer you have to exert yourself constantly, not for 10 seconds like in football. You have to be sprinting your hardest, tackling your hardest, etc. And football players where pads on every inch of their body. Soccer is more dangerous than football, because all you wear are shinguards and you have people flying in on tackles, if you get caught studs up off the shin guard your screwed. I'm a goalkeeper and I've cracked several pairs of shin guards flying in for balls at a players feet. Maybe there is standing around at whatever level of soccer you have played, but at higher levels there isn't. If a player is standing around then I tell them what they need to be doing. I'm watching a World Cup match right now... I don't see players standing around...

Soccer players are the most fit and best athletes on the planet, because the demands of the game require it. And not to mention they are some of the toughest... Roy Keane or Alan Smith could probably take on any football player and come out on top (Alan Smith fought an entire Italian defense in the Champions League, and won).

Anyone I have asked who plays soccer and football has agreed with me that soccer is tougher, etc.

Gen. Volkov · July 05, 2006, 03:13:36 PM

BS. What about throwins? What about corner kicks? What about the defense when the balls at the other end of the field? What about penalty kicks? I watched the Brazil WORLD CUP match. That's as high level as you get. And I definitely did not see constant motion. You're full of it DC. LOL. Most of what I see is just like in football, soccer players jog or walk around, stand still for a bit, and then sprint when they need too. Just like EVERY OTHER DARN SPORT ON THE PLANET. The human body is not capable of all out action for 90 minutes. Soccer players have to conserve their energy just like every other athlete.

And you know as well as I do that football is alot rougher than soccer. They were pads because they'd break bones if they didn't. A 250 pound man running at top speed being hit by another 250 pound man also running at top speed is gonna do some serious damage without padding. Football players are way tougher than soccer players. And better athletes too. There are football players out there who, if they weren't playing football, could be VERY successful in track. There are football players who play at high levels in more than one sport. There's a safety from Notre Dame named Tom Zibikowski, who is also a boxer. And he's lost like 2 bouts. And do you realize the degree of athelticism it takes to reach up to catch a pass at full extension, right on the out of bounds like, and keep both feet in bound just long enough for the ball to be declared caught? The kind of muscular control that takes? Or how about jinking and weaving and breaking tackles for 10 or 20 yards until you are out in the open and then sprinting full speed in all those pads 50 yards for a touchdown? The only thing a soccer player would be good for in football is kicking field goals.

Football is far tougher. And that's not just from me. I too know people who have played both.