Intentional Maxing

[Wolf Snare]

no, that doesnt quite work either, there are loopholes.
I say the best way around it is to get "open attack oppertunities" working. problem solved.

[Beem]

Beem are you still crying over this? God, I for one, do not care if someone is maxed cause that is thier strat. Good on them for thinking of that before I did.  This is the first time I have ever really thought about taking top spot, and it was suggested to me that I need alot of resources to make my jump, and that alone is the only reason I had myself maxed.  But see you fail to realize again, Wolfsnare could have made emp, he could have pwned me like he did you, but he was an ally and assited my rise to power. You however sit in the posistion of 12th, you rarely broke me when you tried, and wolf took what he pleased  from you at will.

Changing the max attacks cause it's cheap? haha, wow you are a whiner thats for sure.

Quite crying, suck it up buttercup.

Thanks Wolfsnare for backing me in this game. This guy is a true player, watch out nOObs he will pawn all of you.

Stop gloating over false gold.  I am not whining, I am simply trying to get a game made FAIR.   It may be part of the game now but it's cheap and abusing the code.   If wolfsnare took the lead on his own merrit I wouldn't have a problem, I know he is a good player and he could have taken the lead if he wanted to.   YOU are the one who doesn't deserve it or have the skill for it.  NO WHERE did I say that I could be in first or even WANTED to be in first.   I just don't like seeing people who are IN first and do NOT deserve it.   So STOP telling me to quit crying and that I am whining.   Just because you are on a side of something that is destined to be done away with doesn't mean the rest of us are pansies for wanting to play a fair game.  Heck, when Josh maxed last game EVERYONE complained about it because it was cheap.

[Gen. Volkov]

Just so we are clear, this is Turbo or reg?

[Ruddertail]

The events took place on Turbo, but the changes, if there are any, may apply to both servers.

[Gen. Volkov]

I know that, I was just curious. Blankshots, back off, Beem has a right to be upset. But Beem, it is legal, so maybe you should be a little less vociferous in your protestations. The game is mostly fair, if Retto was a little more active, we wouldn't be having these problems.

[Blankshots]

The game has run how many era's? and run just fine.  And now, cause beem wants to whine, you are going to have a rule changed.  Leave Retto out of this, this is not his problem.  If he deemed it nessicary to change the rule he would, as he has not, then leave it.

[Gen. Volkov]

Ah, but you see he has seen fit to change it, he just didn't code it right. Look on your Attack page at the Leader Missions, see "Open Attack Oppurtunity" Yeah, it just doesn't work is all. So I pick on Retto for his lack of activity. He hasn't said one thing or another because he is here so rarely. The last time was a few weeks ago, when the host said we were using to much space or processor capacity or something.

[wolf bite]

Okay, about time I speak on this. Long ago I took emperor and had myself intentionally maxed until I had full turns to create enough resources that I could hold it on my own.

Then the ?lose of land? to the attackee when the attacker was very weak was added to the program. Holby made a big land run and then lost all his land to me. With full turns and half the land in the game, I made the resources to easily hold the top.

When I did the above, I did it just for a few days to get a hold on the game, and then kept the top through fighting and diplomacy. (Both listed in my Journal)

But this little trick has really gotten over done as of late. People keep using it for the whole game and keep handing up all the land to people on top. At this point it is now getting really unfair and is costing us players as no one wants to play a game where the only one that has land is invincible.

Therefore I am very seriously debating on doing evil things to those that run the ?one rat attack? or the ?intentional maxing? strategies. Pending approval from the other Admins, I may start doing evil things to accounts that attempt this. Those evil things could be forcing the guilty into a clan or just disabling them. Be warned that this may go into effect without notice.


Wolf Bite
(Admin Duties)

[Beem]

Thankee Wolfbite ^^  Hope this comes into effect as it would rock.

[Ruddertail]

Would this be done only to people who use it excessively, or to everybody and anybody who does it, no matter if for one run or the whole game?

Just curious...

[wolf bite]

I am thinking that for playing ?One Rat Attack? that the person would be locked out of their account and become a land farm.

For ?Intentional Maxing? the person would be locked into a clan for three days.

I would over look 3 ?one Rat Attacks? and up to 5 ?Intentional Maxing to be fair. This way they could use it a little but could not make a full run on it. Further it would be hard for me to determine whether the person was really using those strats or just trying to break someone in just a few shots.

Now that no game is going on in which it is presently being used I can say that the last several games of Turbo have not been the Intentional Maxing strat, but what you can?t see is it has been the One Rat Attack strat thus it was for the movement of land to the person and maxing them all at once. It is much worse doing this than what you people have been thinking in this topic.

Again, this is pending the approval of my Brothers and Sister up in the Admin Castle.


Wolf Bite

[wolf bite]

Bump


Wolf Bite

[cloud]

and once again the admins show how corrupt they are...

[Wolf Snare]

note how admins can "edit" their posts without making it show they did, to prove a point. pffft im out.

[bjornredtail]

Maxing is a part of the game and a ligit tatic so far as I see it. Sure it makes someone unattackable temporarly, but in exchange it takes a LOT of reasources to execuate. 2 turns per attack plus healing back to a reasonable health can add up to be quite a bit of turns very quickly. Given the totally borked strats around this place, it hurts even more concidering you do not have standard means (ie, markets and farms) to support you army while doing this, which adds to the number of turns it takes.

Let us see here...
Assumeing you start the maxing run with a profitable economny (rare these days) and perfect health. You spend 32 turns attacking 16 times, reduceing you health to 4%. You then must spend two turns getting enough health to attack again (not sure about this... How much health to you need to attack again?). Attack once more (2 turns) and you are down to 0% health. You have spent 36 turns so far... Now each addational attack effectively requires 8 turns, six to regain health, two to attack. If hordes around here are maxed at 27 (again, not sure about that number), that puts you to 10 attacks until the target is maxed. Another 80 turns. You have spent 116 turns so far. Spend another hundred turns to get back to full health, 216 turns. Target maxed, you must wait an hour of game time to max the target one more time, giving protection for the next hour. In the downtime, you have gained 12 turns (assume you started with stored turns, in Reg). If you started from full turns, you now have 246 turns remaining. If you do the exact same thing again, you would be left with 30 turns, plus what you gained depending on execuation. Perhaps enough for four more attacks, which is somewhat insignifant. You most likely would use the turns taking care of your own hoard anyways, as for this entire run you have done nothing for your own hoard, aside from recovering health. In reg, it takes around 2-3 days to recover all the turns you spent in theis operation.

So, for a mere two hours of cover, it takes a full turn load run that can only be run once every three days..  I really don't see what the big deal is here... Or have I made some mistake in calculations? Are attacks simply dropped from the counting towards the max attacks an hour after they are made?