Game Balences

[Vengerak]

 I don't see the big deal with Gold Mine. I've always found simple looting gets you more bang for your buck.

[Veranor]

 

I think pressgang has been way too crippled. I was playing as a stoat, I got up to almost 500k workers, did pressgang (Iwas 90% huts with about 145 leaders a hut) and I got "0 stoats have been added to your army"... I did a revolution and switched races because pressgang is now completely useless. I like the idea of pressgang being based on # of huts and the size bonus to keep it in check.

That's because it's buggy right now, but if it were correct the formula would still give you quite a few troops.

I don't see the big deal with Gold Mine. I've always found simple looting gets you more bang for your buck.

Are you saying simple leader-looting or the "spend your turns with 25% more money produced"?

If it is the first, well Gold-Mine is twice as powerful.
If it is the second, you obviously have never used high level gold mine... can you get billions in two turns of non-leader looting?

[Peace Alliance]

 heh, that was a display error orcist. you still got your stoats, but it just told you that you made 0...  :-p

retto says he fixed that.

[cloud]

 well he didnt because I skiff pressed(fox) in normal, and it said i had 0 and I gained 0, and I'm positive because I still have 0 skiffs...

[Gen. Volkov]

 Well you can get billions from both but leader loot takes alot more turns than goldmine, though goldmine is alot more expensive loyaltywise.

[Veranor]

 

well he didnt because I skiff pressed(fox) in normal, and it said i had 0 and I gained 0, and I'm positive because I still have 0 skiffs...

Same here, I pressganged rats on turbo and according to his formula I should have gained some. I gained none.

And Volkov, it's not even 1.5 times as expensive.

[Orcrist]

 Yea- I'm sure I didn't get any stoats when I did the pressgang- I checked. But whatever, I switched races so I'm fine. If it works now, congrats to whoever had enough patience to wait for it.

[Juska]

 Agree's with Orcrist.

Yee. I like Regular's balancedness the way it is now.

Rats- 3 (18.6)
Weasel - 2 (29)
Wildcat - 6 (26.8)
Fox -4 (23.75)
Ferret - 2 (40)
Stoat - 4 (20.25)
Filtcheye - 0
Lizard - 1 (45)
Wolf - 6 (23.5)
Ermine - 2 (39)
Marten - 14 (17.5)

Painted One - 1 (42)

That the current active players of each race and the average rank. Ferret, Rat, Weasel, Filtcheye, Lizard, Ermine, Painted One - 7 race with less than 3 peopel playing them, and then we have Marten with 14 players and a average rank of 17.5(the best of all races).

Yep, the game is perfectly balanced and Marten's have no edge.

[cloud]

 lol, well maybe if we'd get the pressgangs fixed so they actually did something...or gave wolf a decent leader special...it'd balance a little more.

[Holby]

 I like Inspire Fear ^_^ Just hate the -15% defense.

[Juska]

 Cloud how bout we fixed the races with less than 3 ppl and nerf the marten.

[Orcrist]

 I say we give painted ones a large training bonus, like +20%, as well as a -10% cost for mercs. This would then turn into the race that indyers use, making it much more useful. Then, make their leadership and loyalty -5% each. Also, make their huts only being able to hold 160 leaders per hut instead of 175 I know that doing this would seem unbalanced but I think it would be fair.

[Menatus]

 The pressgang for wildcat is completely useless...on commanders, when I had nothing but huts, and 100,00 or so of them, it didn't even help to 'academy' some up.

[Juska]

 Then the few indies would be be torn between Rat and Painted One, we need to find  a way to get more people interested in indying, but the fact is it's 1 heck of alot easier to play Mage, I'm indying and I'm in second, but look at Holbs(at least I bet it's Holbs) He's got 75mil net and the only way I could catch him is if I had 75k land or if I got one huge aid package.

[Orcrist]

 Then make the training bonus +30% for the painted one so that it would be easier to indy with them.