Game Balences

Aqualis · December 04, 2004, 12:17:28 PM

Quote from: fingoI don't see why it was changed so much. Couldn't the Marten just get less money from gold mine and the same idea with other things that people didn't think were fair?

Because we don't want to weaken the races to the point where they're the same thing with little minor differences that don't matter. I think we should make them with big differences, but so that they balance each other.

It's like paper, rock, scissors.
Rock smashes scissors.
Scissors cut paper.
Paper covers rock.

They're very different but they balance out. The same thing needs to be done with RWL.

What we're doing now is making everything a rock and whoever gets out fastest wins. That makes for a very boring game.

Peace Alliance · December 04, 2004, 01:36:04 PM

yes, see we don't want to weaken gold-mine, because that wouldn't be much fun.. people LIKE to have very powerfull specials.

that being said, juska, wildcats pressgang is fine the way retto has it now, i think its balenced quite well.

why would wolf need acadamy? just to make it even BETTER at massing food? i don't think wolf needs acadamy...

sh0e · December 04, 2004, 01:51:46 PM

Quote from: Peace Allianceyes, see we don't want to weaken gold-mine, because that wouldn't be much fun.. people LIKE to have very powerfull specials.

that being said, juska, wildcats pressgang is fine the way retto has it now, i think its balenced quite well.

why would wolf need acadamy? just to make it even BETTER at massing food? i don't think wolf needs acadamy...

because thats what wolfs are good at.. so you amplify it with a spell special

balanced my arse. you are telling me that wildcat pressgang is anywhere near comparison with goldmine? or even just not using the spell at all?

Peace Alliance · December 04, 2004, 01:54:23 PM

yes, it is close to gold-mine. very much so.

and i don't think wolf needs to be amplified :-p

sh0e · December 04, 2004, 02:07:09 PM

Quote from: Peace Allianceyes, it is close to gold-mine. very much so.

and i don't think wolf needs to be amplified :-p

*nvm i forgot to account for something

Juska · December 04, 2004, 04:19:25 PM

Why give it academy? Look at Wolf, it has bonuses already to loyalty and leadership, it is the leader race! So you give the leader race the leader spell, you don't go giving the leader race some (junk) thing which it doesn't need like Inspire fear, they shouldn't have to worry about defences because no one should be able to do leader spells against them. Put a large upkeep on food like QMT has boom no food storing problems.

sh0e · December 04, 2004, 04:36:18 PM

Quote from: JuskaWhy give it academy? Look at Wolf, it has bonuses already to loyalty and leadership, it is the leader race! So you give the leader race the leader spell, you don't go giving the leader race some (junk) thing which it doesn't need like Inspire fear, they shouldn't have to worry about defences because no one should be able to do leader spells against them. Put a large upkeep on food like QMT has boom no food storing problems.

well.. given the current attitudes
it seems ppl like food hoarding for nw.. much the way they like goldmine

anyhow im just going to second juskas notion
and the idea of "true" race specialization

RazorClaw · December 04, 2004, 11:54:54 PM

Goldmine is now pwning pretty much like pressgang was, except not quite so dominant...

fingo · December 05, 2004, 04:06:55 AM

QuoteBecause we don't want to weaken the races to the point where they're the same thing with little minor differences that don't matter. I think we should make them with big differences, but so that they balance each other.

Good point and idea
I've been away for a bit but I remember some races were better then others like Marten so a lot of people were them. I didn't think it was unfair because people had the choice of being a race with good spell or one with a not so good spell.

P.S. Is there a place in the game guide that shows each races spell special? It use to be on the race info page but it's not any more.

Juska · December 05, 2004, 08:34:01 AM

I know the old speical spells, but I don't know what the new ones are after the pressgang change.

fingo · December 05, 2004, 09:16:46 AM

Yeah I know most of the old ones but I don't know hardly any of the new one.
How many leaders are there per hut now?

cloud · December 05, 2004, 10:04:02 AM

100/175 still.

Riverpaw · December 05, 2004, 10:27:46 AM

I just want to use weasel for corsair again.

Ashyra Nightwing · December 06, 2004, 10:43:07 AM

Yee. I like Regular's balancedness the way it is now.

Orcrist · December 06, 2004, 11:40:14 AM

I think pressgang has been way too crippled. I was playing as a stoat, I got up to almost 500k workers, did pressgang (Iwas 90% huts with about 145 leaders a hut) and I got "0 stoats have been added to your army"... I did a revolution and switched races because pressgang is now completely useless. I like the idea of pressgang being based on # of huts and the size bonus to keep it in check.