Pressgang/goldmine

[Retto]

 Anyone have opinions on if we should have new Pressgang/Academy/Etc.../Goldmine formulae?
If we should, what should it depend on, and how much should it get?

I know a lot of people have had complaints about them making the game unfair.

[Veranor]

 Goldmine: make the loyalty cost the same as a 2x loot. It's still useful because you're saving turns.

Pressgang: Either make the mods lower or make it cost you something besides just loyalty. Maybe 1/2 pvt market cost. This makes it interesting because then camps could be more useful even to a pressganger.

[Retto]

 I was thinking, for Pressgang, making the ratios lower, and having it take workers.

[wolf bite]

 The problem is that pressgang and Corsair is magic that does not count on Huts to land, but gives value based on networth. So a person can have one hut at 90% leaders and spend almost no loyalty to use it. The cost of these to use should be set to the cost of the land as if 100% huts with a 100% leaders.


Wolf Bite

[Veranor]

 

I was thinking, for Pressgang, making the ratios lower, and having it take workers.

Also make Leaders to land important. Right now you can have 1 hut and 9999 barracks and you get the same as 10000 huts. (From the PR, and then you get extra from barracks)

EDIT: wolf slipped a post in while I was posting.

[Kilkenne]

 Pressgang would be nice if it would make X% of your workers all troops. Nothing but that, so it forces the people to have workers if they want to press. Would be nice because one would have to wait for their tents to refill...

[Juska]

 I like Kilk's idea.

And V's about pressgang.

I'd like to bring up the rat speical ability, luck of the devil, who cares? The lottery is nothin you get 100mil if you win, make the lottery worthwhile(1bil) or give the rat a new ability, or drop hsia bilty adn give him extra race bonuses.

[RazorClaw]

 Me likes pressganging as it is...

[Veranor]

 

Me likes pressganging as it is...

You either A) don't understand how it works or B ) want an unbalanced game where everyone plays Wildcats and Martens (in that order).

[Germania]

You either A) don't understand how it works or B ) want an unbalanced game where everyone plays Wildcats and Martens (in that order).

I saw some flitcheyes last round...

It's probably theoretically impossible to balance all of the races. The day you do, you then realize what was the point if they are all in balance. Might as well have only had one.

[Veranor]

I saw some flitcheyes last round...

It's probably theoretically impossible to balance all of the races. The day you do, you then realize what was the point if they are all in balance. Might as well have only had one.

Well the idea is they all have their pros and cons. Ok, you're right, they'll probably never be perfectly balanced. But it can sure as (hades) be better than now. After what just happened, I'm sure most people would agree.

[Germania]

I saw some flitcheyes last round...

It's probably theoretically impossible to balance all of the races. The day you do, you then realize what was the point if they are all in balance. Might as well have only had one.

Well the idea is they all have their pros and cons. Ok, you're right, they'll probably never be perfectly balanced. But it can sure as (hades) be better than now. After what just happened, I'm sure most people would agree.

Save Retto the headaches. Return them to Era 1 races.

Game should be determined by how a person can play the game, not a racial ability.

[Juska]

 QMT has pretty blanced races, there are humans, orcs, and gremlin who are seldom played, but still have a place in the game. And the game is still fun G.

[RazorClaw]

 Why not make other races better, rather than Wildcat worse? Trolls pwn in QMT, IMO...

[Veranor]

Why not make other races better, rather than Wildcat worse? Trolls pwn in QMT, IMO...

It would be more work to pump up every other race than to correct one (two) races.