Multi Account

Germania 4 · February 14, 2003, 10:30:30 PM

Well last time they banned beatles it didn't last too long.

alacazar · February 14, 2003, 11:54:41 PM

Personaly I work clowsly with a good freind I know from years ago, and he often quardiantes an attack with his brother, if the nation in question threatens both. The end result usualy looks like 3 natons overlapping attacks, or if my friend is visiting home, it may look like 3 attacks one after another. We all live in diferent parts of north america, but if somone was being hit hard by us in a paticularly well planned attack we might be wrongly accused of being a multi account. All in all however accusing somone of cheeting over this board isnt going to get anything done, you need to find proof, recomend to the admins that they monitor those acounts closely and over all hope you dont get burned to badly befor admin catches them

alacazar

Germania 4 · February 15, 2003, 02:51:27 AM

So your pretty much saying its ok to cheat as long as you don't get caught?

I like how you apply a situation of two to a situation of three, which doesn't seem very likely.

I found my proof, its right there, if your too blind to see it, then that's your own fault.

Your own story makes them all the more suspicious, seeing how they are all in your clan. :rolleyes:

Stormclaw · February 15, 2003, 09:08:42 AM

If you'd been around longer, you'd know that such things are possible. Ask any of the DI veterans about A-Day and the fall of Dies Irae.

General Austin · February 15, 2003, 09:25:03 AM

*sighs* I was ALMOST an oldie, but no, I had to get here a long time afterwards.... Grr

Menatus · February 15, 2003, 02:30:23 PM

Three members...four players...and why would the family members waste ALL their health and turns just so Leader could get a little land? Seems a little suspicious to me.

Oh, I know about that "omniblink" guy. There were a bunch of accounts in unison, 350, 356, 370 etc...all had a LOT of money, but no troops except for skiffs. I knew they were cheaters because of that, and constantly attacked them :P Omniblink never got past 11 anyway.

calria · February 15, 2003, 05:10:56 PM

It's possible that they're lying to the admins about their bro's/sisters... or it could be that there really even are bro's there, but one has access to the other's accounts, and is using them perhaps without the others' knowledge?

Germania 4 · February 15, 2003, 05:16:45 PM

Sounds like a load of crap to me.

You can't really know if someone has a brother or sister. I could say I have 25 and add them in tomorrow and there is no way you could say I don't. Acording to your logic that is. Just gotta remember to keep the last names the same :rolleyes:

alacazar · February 15, 2003, 06:03:25 PM

;) heck yes a brother could hack into his brothers account and use it. The only good way to tell is to watch them. Over a period of thime of they only attack the same targets with no deviation, and ther are always on one after another. Chances are you have a multi account. If there is variation in the times that they get on, or they attack different targets often enough to be notable then there is enough resonable doubt to allow the account to exist.

Beleave me IN a game called ultimate empire I got sick of the multitudes of people with muties and noted the above and reported them when I could. Some got deleted some didnt

in the end its up to admin ;)

alacazar

Germania 4 · February 15, 2003, 07:25:35 PM

Once again you assume they are brothers in the first place.

The whole thing is a joke, family BS should be banned.
All freemail accounts should be banned and only your isp email account, which must match your ip should be allowed for use to play.
All anonymous and transparent proxies should be banned. (and are easily detectable with a php/java scripts)
Ident checks should be set up for the ones who are on dyn ips, that way the machine identity is kept and catalogued, if matched with two accounts, both are banned.

Menatus · February 15, 2003, 07:31:09 PM

That would be useful, but it wouldn't work for some people. For instance, me. A virus got into my dad's comp, which is the one I use the most, so now he doesn't let us know the password, even for ourselves. And my account on his server got deleted by him anyway.

Plus, before I had a comp that went online, I went to other peoples houses and stuff, so I had to use freemail there.

But I agree with you elsewhere. I highly doubt there's any family involved.

Germania 4 · February 15, 2003, 07:42:00 PM

Ah of course alacazar, I assume Night was also a threat, attacking two of your clan members a few times. Then having a similar combined attack, one after another of course.

Sat, 15 Feb 2003 17:52:29 -0600 wolf bite (#885)
Clan: <==}= Night (#236)
Clan: Northern Standard Attack
37 Acres

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Sat, 15 Feb 2003 17:51:53 -0600 wolf bite (#885)
Clan: <==}= Night (#236)
Clan: Northern Standard Attack
40 Acres

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Sat, 15 Feb 2003 17:51:48 -0600 wolf bite (#885)
Clan: <==}= Night (#236)
Clan: Northern Naval Assault
48 Acres

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Sat, 15 Feb 2003 17:51:41 -0600 wolf bite (#885)
Clan: <==}= Night (#236)
Clan: Northern Standard Attack
51 Acres

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Sat, 15 Feb 2003 17:51:36 -0600 wolf bite (#885)
Clan: <==}= Night (#236)
Clan: Northern Standard Attack
39 Acres

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Sat, 15 Feb 2003 17:51:29 -0600 wolf bite (#885)
Clan: <==}= Night (#236)
Clan: Northern Standard Attack
52 Acres

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Sat, 15 Feb 2003 17:51:24 -0600 wolf bite (#885)
Clan: <==}= Night (#236)
Clan: Northern Standard Attack
83 Acres

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Sat, 15 Feb 2003 17:51:17 -0600 wolf bite (#885)
Clan: <==}= Night (#236)
Clan: Northern Standard Attack
63 Acres

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Sat, 15 Feb 2003 14:53:52 -0600 chaos werebears (#1077)
Clan: ?CW? Night (#236)
Clan: Northern Naval Assault
46 Acres

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Sat, 15 Feb 2003 14:53:50 -0600 chaos werebears (#1077)
Clan: ?CW? Night (#236)
Clan: Northern Naval Assault
56 Acres

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Sat, 15 Feb 2003 14:53:49 -0600 chaos werebears (#1077)
Clan: ?CW? Night (#236)
Clan: Northern Naval Assault
93 Acres

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Sat, 15 Feb 2003 14:53:47 -0600 chaos werebears (#1077)
Clan: ?CW? Night (#236)
Clan: Northern Naval Assault
58 Acres

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Sat, 15 Feb 2003 14:53:46 -0600 chaos werebears (#1077)
Clan: ?CW? Night (#236)
Clan: Northern Naval Assault
67 Acres

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Sat, 15 Feb 2003 14:53:45 -0600 chaos werebears (#1077)
Clan: ?CW? Night (#236)
Clan: Northern Naval Assault
102 Acres

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Sat, 15 Feb 2003 14:53:43 -0600 chaos werebears (#1077)
Clan: ?CW? Night (#236)
Clan: Northern Naval Assault
54 Acres

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Sat, 15 Feb 2003 14:53:38 -0600 chaos werebears (#1077)
Clan: ?CW? Night (#236)
Clan: Northern Naval Assault
92 Acres

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Sat, 15 Feb 2003 14:53:34 -0600 chaos werebears (#1077)
Clan: ?CW? Night (#236)
Clan: Northern Naval Assault
62 Acres

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Sat, 15 Feb 2003 14:53:33 -0600 chaos werebears (#1077)
Clan: ?CW? Night (#236)
Clan: Northern Naval Assault
106 Acres

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Sat, 15 Feb 2003 14:53:31 -0600 chaos werebears (#1077)
Clan: ?CW? Night (#236)
Clan: Northern Naval Assault
122 Acres

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Sat, 15 Feb 2003 14:53:30 -0600 chaos werebears (#1077)
Clan: ?CW? Night (#236)
Clan: Northern Naval Assault
108 Acres

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Sat, 15 Feb 2003 14:53:27 -0600 chaos werebears (#1077)
Clan: ?CW? Night (#236)
Clan: Northern Naval Assault
94 Acres

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Sat, 15 Feb 2003 14:53:26 -0600 chaos werebears (#1077)
Clan: ?CW? Night (#236)
Clan: Northern Naval Assault
99 Acres

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Sat, 15 Feb 2003 14:53:23 -0600 chaos werebears (#1077)
Clan: ?CW? Night (#236)
Clan: Northern Naval Assault
126 Acres

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Sat, 15 Feb 2003 12:04:52 -0600 wolf bite (#885)
Clan: <==}= Night (#236)
Clan: Northern Standard Attack
106 Acres

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Sat, 15 Feb 2003 12:04:42 -0600 wolf bite (#885)
Clan: <==}= Night (#236)
Clan: Northern Standard Attack
90 Acres

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Sat, 15 Feb 2003 12:02:44 -0600 wolf bite (#885)
Clan: <==}= Night (#236)
Clan: Northern Standard Attack
160 Acres

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Sat, 15 Feb 2003 12:02:35 -0600 wolf bite (#885)
Clan: <==}= Night (#236)
Clan: Northern Standard Attack
206 Acres

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Sat, 15 Feb 2003 12:02:29 -0600 wolf bite (#885)
Clan: <==}= Night (#236)
Clan: Northern Standard Attack
149 Acres

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Sat, 15 Feb 2003 12:02:23 -0600 wolf bite (#885)
Clan: <==}= Night (#236)
Clan: Northern Standard Attack
121 Acres

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Sat, 15 Feb 2003 12:02:17 -0600 wolf bite (#885)
Clan: <==}= Night (#236)
Clan: Northern Standard Attack
149 Acres

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Sat, 15 Feb 2003 12:02:06 -0600 wolf bite (#885)
Clan: <==}= Night (#236)
Clan: Northern Standard Attack
89 Acres

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Sat, 15 Feb 2003 12:01:59 -0600 wolf bite (#885)
Clan: <==}= Night (#236)
Clan: Northern Standard Attack
104 Acres

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Sat, 15 Feb 2003 12:01:10 -0600 wolf bite (#885)
Clan: <==}= Night (#236)
Clan: Northern Standard Attack
151 Acres

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Sat, 15 Feb 2003 12:01:01 -0600 wolf bite (#885)
Clan: <==}= Night (#236)
Clan: Northern Standard Attack
184 Acres

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Sat, 15 Feb 2003 11:59:57 -0600 wolf bite (#885)
Clan: <==}= Night (#236)
Clan: Northern Standard Attack
Defense Held

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Sat, 15 Feb 2003 11:59:50 -0600 wolf bite (#885)
Clan: <==}= Night (#236)
Clan: Northern Standard Attack
Defense Held

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Sat, 15 Feb 2003 11:59:45 -0600 wolf bite (#885)
Clan: <==}= Night (#236)
Clan: Northern Standard Attack
161 Acres

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Sat, 15 Feb 2003 11:59:38 -0600 wolf bite (#885)
Clan: <==}= Night (#236)
Clan: Northern Standard Attack
72 Acres

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Sat, 15 Feb 2003 11:59:29 -0600 wolf bite (#885)
Clan: <==}= Night (#236)
Clan: Northern Standard Attack
235 Acres

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Sat, 15 Feb 2003 11:59:22 -0600 wolf bite (#885)
Clan: <==}= Night (#236)
Clan: Northern Standard Attack
111 Acres

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Sat, 15 Feb 2003 11:59:16 -0600 wolf bite (#885)
Clan: <==}= Night (#236)
Clan: Northern Standard Attack
222 Acres

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Sat, 15 Feb 2003 09:23:32 -0600 Destroyer of Ferrets (#715)
Clan: ?ilver Night (#236)
Clan: Northern Guerilla Strike
Defense Held

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Fri, 14 Feb 2003 15:22:47 -0600 wolf bite (#885)
Clan: <==}= Night (#236)
Clan: Northern Standard Attack
109 Acres

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Fri, 14 Feb 2003 14:36:20 -0600 Horde of Marlfoxes (#612)
Clan: <==}= Night (#236)
Clan: Northern Standard Attack
144 Acres

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Fri, 14 Feb 2003 14:36:14 -0600 Horde of Marlfoxes (#612)
Clan: <==}= Night (#236)
Clan: Northern Standard Attack
64 Acres

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Fri, 14 Feb 2003 14:36:00 -0600 Horde of Marlfoxes (#612)
Clan: <==}= Night (#236)
Clan: Northern Standard Attack
207 Acres

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Fri, 14 Feb 2003 14:31:14 -0600 The Goreleech (#818)
Clan: <==}= Night (#236)
Clan: Northern Standard Attack
203 Acres

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Fri, 14 Feb 2003 14:31:07 -0600 The Goreleech (#818)
Clan: <==}= Night (#236)
Clan: Northern Standard Attack
191 Acres

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Fri, 14 Feb 2003 14:31:02 -0600 The Goreleech (#818)
Clan: <==}= Night (#236)
Clan: Northern Standard Attack
215 Acres

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Fri, 14 Feb 2003 14:30:57 -0600 The Goreleech (#818)
Clan: <==}= Night (#236)
Clan: Northern Standard Attack
94 Acres

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Fri, 14 Feb 2003 14:30:53 -0600 The Goreleech (#818)
Clan: <==}= Night (#236)
Clan: Northern Standard Attack
271 Acres

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Fri, 14 Feb 2003 14:30:49 -0600 The Goreleech (#818)
Clan: <==}= Night (#236)
Clan: Northern Standard Attack
181 Acres

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Fri, 14 Feb 2003 14:28:48 -0600 The Goreleech (#818)
Clan: <==}= Night (#236)
Clan: Northern Standard Attack
210 Acres

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Fri, 14 Feb 2003 14:28:40 -0600 The Goreleech (#818)
Clan: <==}= Night (#236)
Clan: Northern Standard Attack
98 Acres

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Fri, 14 Feb 2003 14:28:35 -0600 The Goreleech (#818)
Clan: <==}= Night (#236)
Clan: Northern Standard Attack
177 Acres

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Fri, 14 Feb 2003 14:28:30 -0600 The Goreleech (#818)
Clan: <==}= Night (#236)
Clan: Northern Standard Attack
254 Acres

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Fri, 14 Feb 2003 14:28:25 -0600 The Goreleech (#818)
Clan: <==}= Night (#236)
Clan: Northern Standard Attack
188 Acres

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Fri, 14 Feb 2003 14:28:19 -0600 The Goreleech (#818)
Clan: <==}= Night (#236)
Clan: Northern Standard Attack
221 Acres

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Fri, 14 Feb 2003 14:28:14 -0600 The Goreleech (#818)
Clan: <==}= Night (#236)
Clan: Northern Standard Attack
200 Acres

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Fri, 14 Feb 2003 14:28:07 -0600 The Goreleech (#818)
Clan: <==}= Night (#236)
Clan: Northern Standard Attack
269 Acres

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Fri, 14 Feb 2003 14:28:00 -0600 The Goreleech (#818)
Clan: <==}= Night (#236)
Clan: Northern Standard Attack
381 Acres

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Fri, 14 Feb 2003 14:27:37 -0600 The Goreleech (#818)
Clan: <==}= Night (#236)
Clan: Northern Standard Attack
Defense Held

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Fri, 14 Feb 2003 14:27:31 -0600 The Goreleech (#818)
Clan: <==}= Night (#236)
Clan: Northern Standard Attack
388 Acres

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Fri, 14 Feb 2003 14:27:26 -0600 The Goreleech (#818)
Clan: <==}= Night (#236)
Clan: Northern Standard Attack
259 Acres

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Fri, 14 Feb 2003 14:27:21 -0600 The Goreleech (#818)
Clan: <==}= Night (#236)
Clan: Northern Standard Attack
244 Acres

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Fri, 14 Feb 2003 14:27:16 -0600 The Goreleech (#818)
Clan: <==}= Night (#236)
Clan: Northern Standard Attack
273 Acres

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Fri, 14 Feb 2003 14:27:06 -0600 The Goreleech (#818)
Clan: <==}= Night (#236)
Clan: Northern Standard Attack
333 Acres

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Fri, 14 Feb 2003 14:27:01 -0600 The Goreleech (#818)
Clan: <==}= Night (#236)
Clan: Northern Standard Attack
233 Acres

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Fri, 14 Feb 2003 14:26:49 -0600 The Goreleech (#818)
Clan: <==}= Night (#236)
Clan: Northern Standard Attack
282 Acres

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Fri, 14 Feb 2003 14:26:36 -0600 The Goreleech (#818)
Clan: <==}= Night (#236)
Clan: Northern Standard Attack
298 Acres

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Fri, 14 Feb 2003 14:26:23 -0600 The Goreleech (#818)
Clan: <==}= Night (#236)
Clan: Northern Standard Attack
427 Acres

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Fri, 14 Feb 2003 14:26:18 -0600 The Goreleech (#818)
Clan: <==}= Night (#236)
Clan: Northern Standard Attack
385 Acres

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Fri, 14 Feb 2003 14:26:09 -0600 The Goreleech (#818)
Clan: <==}= Night (#236)
Clan: Northern Standard Attack
295 Acres

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Fri, 14 Feb 2003 14:26:04 -0600 The Goreleech (#818)
Clan: <==}= Night (#236)
Clan: Northern Standard Attack
352 Acres

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Fri, 14 Feb 2003 14:25:59 -0600 The Goreleech (#818)
Clan: <==}= Night (#236)
Clan: Northern Standard Attack
494 Acres

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Fri, 14 Feb 2003 14:25:53 -0600 The Goreleech (#818)
Clan: <==}= Night (#236)
Clan: Northern Standard Attack
544 Acres

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Fri, 14 Feb 2003 14:24:02 -0600 The Goreleech (#818)
Clan: <==}= Night (#236)
Clan: Northern Standard Attack
Defense Held

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Fri, 14 Feb 2003 14:23:55 -0600 The Goreleech (#818)
Clan: <==}= Night (#236)
Clan: Northern Standard Attack
494 Acres

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Fri, 14 Feb 2003 14:23:47 -0600 The Goreleech (#818)
Clan: <==}= Night (#236)
Clan: Northern Standard Attack
347 Acres

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Fri, 14 Feb 2003 14:23:42 -0600 The Goreleech (#818)
Clan: <==}= Night (#236)
Clan: Northern Standard Attack
360 Acres

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Fri, 14 Feb 2003 14:23:37 -0600 The Goreleech (#818)
Clan: <==}= Night (#236)
Clan: Northern Standard Attack
568 Acres

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Fri, 14 Feb 2003 14:23:32 -0600 The Goreleech (#818)
Clan: <==}= Night (#236)
Clan: Northern Standard Attack
365 Acres

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Fri, 14 Feb 2003 14:23:26 -0600 The Goreleech (#818)
Clan: <==}= Night (#236)
Clan: Northern Standard Attack
706 Acres

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Fri, 14 Feb 2003 14:19:09 -0600 Blood Wake (#477)
Clan: <==}= Night (#236)
Clan: Northern Standard Attack
Defense Held

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Fri, 14 Feb 2003 14:18:58 -0600 Blood Wake (#477)
Clan: <==}= Night (#236)
Clan: Northern Standard Attack
562 Acres

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Fri, 14 Feb 2003 14:18:54 -0600 Blood Wake (#477)
Clan: <==}= Night (#236)
Clan: Northern Standard Attack
656 Acres

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Fri, 14 Feb 2003 14:18:44 -0600 Blood Wake (#477)
Clan: <==}= Night (#236)
Clan: Northern Standard Attack
710 Acres

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Fri, 14 Feb 2003 14:18:37 -0600 Blood Wake (#477)
Clan: <==}= Night (#236)
Clan: Northern Standard Attack
412 Acres

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Fri, 14 Feb 2003 14:18:31 -0600 Blood Wake (#477)
Clan: <==}= Night (#236)
Clan: Northern Standard Attack
964 Acres

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Fri, 14 Feb 2003 14:18:22 -0600 Blood Wake (#477)
Clan: <==}= Night (#236)
Clan: Northern Standard Attack
822 Acres

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Fri, 14 Feb 2003 14:18:17 -0600 Blood Wake (#477)
Clan: <==}= Night (#236)
Clan: Northern Standard Attack
371 Acres

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Fri, 14 Feb 2003 14:17:51 -0600 Blood Wake (#477)
Clan: <==}= Night (#236)
Clan: Northern Standard Attack
Defense Held

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Fri, 14 Feb 2003 14:17:26 -0600 Blood Wake (#477)
Clan: <==}= Night (#236)
Clan: Northern Standard Attack
Defense Held

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Fri, 14 Feb 2003 14:16:16 -0600 Blood Wake (#477)
Clan: <==}= Night (#236)
Clan: Northern Standard Attack
Defense Held

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Fri, 14 Feb 2003 14:16:10 -0600 Blood Wake (#477)
Clan: <==}= Night (#236)
Clan: Northern Standard Attack
825 Acres

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Fri, 14 Feb 2003 14:16:05 -0600 Blood Wake (#477)
Clan: <==}= Night (#236)
Clan: Northern Standard Attack
1045 Acres

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Fri, 14 Feb 2003 14:15:29 -0600 Blood Wake (#477)
Clan: <==}= Night (#236)
Clan: Northern Standard Attack
382 Acres

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Fri, 14 Feb 2003 14:15:23 -0600 Blood Wake (#477)
Clan: <==}= Night (#236)
Clan: Northern Standard Attack
950 Acres

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Fri, 14 Feb 2003 14:15:18 -0600 Blood Wake (#477)
Clan: <==}= Night (#236)
Clan: Northern Standard Attack
576 Acres

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Fri, 14 Feb 2003 14:15:10 -0600 Blood Wake (#477)
Clan: <==}= Night (#236)
Clan: Northern Standard Attack
1116 Acres

windhound · February 15, 2003, 07:45:47 PM

*cringes* ouch... all that in 2 days or less...
well, you cant say that the clan doesnt work together <_<

Germania 4 · February 15, 2003, 07:51:58 PM

Once again we miss the point, the number of attacks is irrelavent.

Menatus · February 15, 2003, 07:53:47 PM

I havn't missed the point. They attack all with one horde at once, change accounts, and attack all with that one. Such is the same with Leader attacking Germania.