Loren

IB-frank · September 22, 2004, 01:29:19 PM

I thought that after one of the resets Loren said they wouldn't reform Loren. So why is there a clan called Loren?

Juby (Tercios) · September 22, 2004, 01:35:29 PM

Their an evil clan that is abusing the name Loren based on holby's misguided authority, I call them either bizarro loren or Loren the Machiavelli

wolf bite · September 22, 2004, 02:23:11 PM

*Starts to make a fact based responce restating what has been widely known on the foums. Then notices that it was Juby that had made that wrong statment above and knows Juby will argue the sky is green.*

Wolf Bite

Neobaron · September 22, 2004, 03:07:19 PM

*thanks wolf*

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*shuffles away with point proven*

Veranor · September 22, 2004, 03:15:55 PM

Quote from: Neobaron*thanks wolf*

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*shuffles away with point proven*

You could still answer the guy's question.

You didn't prove anything. Wolf just implied he thinks Juby is crazy.

RazorClaw · September 22, 2004, 03:36:52 PM

Um, well, Holby can sort of decide whether he thinks changing his mind on his own clan's statement is appropriate... And perhaps we will resume the functions of old Loren after the WAR. (Note the capitalized word, Jubes. And our actions aren't nearly as dishonorable-- are they dishonorable?-- as those of Sworn.)

windhound · September 22, 2004, 03:47:24 PM

*pokes Razor*
lets keep off the 'honor' topic shall we? there's a whole 'nother thread chock full of it..

hrm, yep.. tis Holby's Loren... Sworn decided that they wanted to take over the game, and caused the disbanding of BA, from which most of Loren is made up..
Taking over the game ususally requires force, which the members of former-BA and Loren did not appriciate (as well as the other hordes not associated with Sworn), thus a war was started. Loren was a relitivly peaceful training clan if I remember, but it was quite able to deal with any threats that came it's way, as current Loren seems to be...

RazorClaw · September 22, 2004, 03:50:18 PM

windy's training me, it's called "utilizing aid". *pokes rank* it works, methinks...

windhound · September 22, 2004, 03:54:51 PM

lol.. now I need to get you weaned off my aid :P

RazorClaw · September 22, 2004, 03:55:32 PM

Will be after this... 70-80M net is the point where I am weaned. :D

Juby (Tercios) · September 22, 2004, 08:17:21 PM

Quote from: wolf bite*Starts to make a fact based responce restating what has been widely known on the foums. Then notices that it was Juby that had made that wrong statment above and knows Juby will argue the sky is green.*

Wolf Bite

:rolleyes: :lol:

And the old Loren would only kill in retaliation for a kill, not begin the killing, we all know that this Loren plays like a regular run of the mill clan then with it's usual honour, really, it isn't anything at all like the old loren. And just because we want to take over hte game doesn't make us evil, that's the goal of EVERY CLAN, it's the point of having a clan. Do you think S.E. is playing just to make the mediocre players feel good by comparison :P :lol:

wolf bite · September 22, 2004, 08:47:44 PM

Okay, Okay, I will again spend my time to state what everyone knows and can be proven in posts.

1)   The clan of Sworn was created to be an evil clan by Dead eye.
2)   Opening day of sworn, they broke several pre organization treaties
3)   Opening day they did an all-out assault on the BA clan.
4)   Opening day they tried to kill the leader of the BA clan, thus forcing the BA clan to shut down.
5)   I don?t recall who succeeded in the first kill, but Sworn tried first and has done several.
6)   Sworn has members that do not have the clan flag that do not follow the truces of the clan so the clan can damage those it has truces with, in violation of those truces.
7)   Sworn has broken many truces with me before I ever took any offensive attacks.
8)   Sworn had spies in all forums and clans.
9)   The leader of Sworn took over a different person?s account that was a member of Loran to beg for aid and sent Loran?s supplies to Sworn.

I am sure I have forgotten a few of the war crimes of Sworn and its members. But I think I have made my point. If the good clan of Loran has to fight with the same disgusting forms of attacks that are being use against them, then that does not make loran evil, only defensive.

P.S. The sky is blue ?

Wolf Bite

Peace Alliance · September 22, 2004, 08:54:48 PM

oh man, i really like being on the sidelines for this. this reminds me of when i argued with wolf, he would make a big long post about the things i supposedly did wrong and neglect all the things i had said about him. i guess thats what law school teach's eh? thats why i can't wait to go to law school!

anyways, sworn seems cool enough to me. i like death-eater. but they've unfortunitly got that jerktard ashaman helping them, and i can't stand him.

Veranor · September 22, 2004, 08:58:32 PM

Too much bias both ways.

Juska · September 22, 2004, 09:14:56 PM

1) True
2) What treaties? If you mean that #100 thing I don't want to hear it.
3) We attacked who we could, not our fault there were the strongest clan at the time, we needed to bring em down.
4) Mostly true, but we didn't force BA to disband, and we brought Nohc to 57 or something land before Dead Eye learned who we were killing and stopped it.
5) I killed both Holby and Nohc, mainly do to the killing of myself and Dead Eye which were made before we killed anyone, and the fact that Nohc of some Loren member attacked me over 90 times unprovoked.
6) If you say so all mighty and powerful Wolf Bite
7) Again the #100 thing, and we attacked you at on point which meant the truce was over :)
8) As did Blades, were deos it say spies aren't allowed? It's not like we hacked into their forums or anything.
9) I'm not the best person to answer that one.

PS: Not on a cloudy day my good fellow.