Loren

[Juska]

 He's named his price. He wants retals to be given and they will be.

[wolf bite]

 NO! That was then, this is now. I have taken care of it on my own. I was only making the point that I asked for your clan to punish its own people for not following your rules and you would not. Sending wolfy aid is not sometihing I need. Juby had also taken a shot at me. so I do not fall for "i'm sorry."


Wolf Bite

[Juska]

 What? Well he got kicked outta the clan at any rate. I guess we won't be giving retals then.

[Juby (Tercios)]

 Wolf, did you message Morzan like I told you, YES or NO, I AM NOT THE LEADER, I DON'T EVEN HOLD RANK YET!  I AM NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR PUNISHING MEMBERS OF FORSWORN.  I told you to tell Morzan, you didn't.  I offered to pay for him while (as I was assuming) you worked it out with Morzan.

Do NOT complain to me unless you are being completely forthright!  That is bloody well insulting, your manipulating this situation so that you can come clean that you are not neutral and still be exempt from attacks.

[wolf bite]

 Juby, do you ever read before you post? I contacted YOU because you had attacked me in violation of the truce.

Also I did contact your leader on aim, he seemed not to care.


Wolf Bite

[Juska]

 Can't we end this fight you people? We made mistakes we fixed them as best we could and now lets get on with the game.

[Juby (Tercios)]

 A) Then Why did you ask me to punish #100, that does not make any bleedin sense, you were acting like I was the leader, placing responsibity on my shoulders.
B) THIS IS NOT THE "I HAVE BEEN ATTACKED, I WANT BLOOD" THREAD, THIS IS A LOREN AND FORSWORN TOPIC, YOU ARE NOT IN EITHER, STOP DEFLECTING THE TOPIC.
C) I am sending you 100 000 Weasels this instance whether you like it or not to make up for the measely 6 - 7000 you lost.
D) That is all that can be done, live with it and move ON.

[wolf bite]

 Juby, again you missed the point. This topic was on Loran fighting Sworn. The Sworn response was that Sworn had been honorable so Loran was in the wrong. I was asking for nothing, only pointing out that Sworn did not seem to have the control of its members that were not playing with honor. You being one.

Wolf Bite

[Juby (Tercios)]

 ohh bloody ..., i didn't know there was a truce at the moment and I don't think that excuse it but i still apologized, at the moment I was late and was trying to make land grabs with many less targets, I tried to make it up to you as well as my position dictates.  It was one measely little attack.  It wasn't even worth a mention, you twisted it to make us look bad. There is no honour in manipulating the occurance of events either.  You said and I quote "I am not happy" you were getting involved and swaying public opinion but using yourself as a poster boy for our "evils".  you getting attacked was not appropriate to mention here, make a different bloody thread.
We made a major land grab on the game, it's just like indie land grabs but with the benefit of clanliness.

[Morzan]

 Ah the great part of being a leader of a clan. Let me clear this up for everyone. First Wolf, I did not get your message because I did not realize I was online, I tried sending a reply when I got back but you had signed off. The whole clan size thing is silly, since Loren once had two clans, each with 13 people in it, yet no one went to war with them because of it. I agree you have a reason for this war, and no doubt we will fight it, since the my whole reason for coming back to RWL was to make a plot and war and make it alive again from its 30 players or so. I wish Holby had talked with me about it first, since after all I wanted a plot and he could have added one. Also, I have become much more busy since my old days of RWL with work, girlfriend, poker night, and some personal family matters in which was the reason I left in the first place. That is why punishments and such have not been given out. If anybody had a complaint, they could have asked or told me about it. I did intend for Forsworn to be evil and have a war and such, but I wanted it to be an equal war, and me and the other group discuss on things, like Ereptor and Kilk did with their plots. And Wolf, you know what I intended to do, I have been meaning to talk to you. Holby, I do need to talk to you. We shall not back down from this war. Though over the last few months I have changed, I still remain with the fact that I will not back down from a fight. Holby, you know that since you once fought a war against me. I wished for this to happen, but I wanted a plot, which I was going to try and plan with  Wolf Bite. I agree, we are quite evil, and we planned to take over the game. But please make your reasons for war resonable. I understand Neobaron, his clan was mighty till we came along. I do not believe we ever attacked Holby much, and only attacked Windy when he attacked us. A war wouldbe good, but I want a plot, if it is a war it could die without anything happening. Holby, you and Wolf are/were a major part of RWL, you must also see as I do that the game is nearly dead, and I want it to live. That is why I am doing this. I will tear you all apart. But if a war is coming, I need both of you to talk to me. Whatis your screen name Holby? Also, Juska and Juby, though both of you are my major clan leaders, I am going to ask you to take back any and all insults or comments you have said in this topic. Do not worry, we shall tear Loren apart, but we will no longer provoke it right now. I hope we can talk about this resonably.

Morzan, the Warlord formally known as DEAD EYE

[Juby (Tercios)]

 I retract the various statments that described Wolf Bite as being a manipulative charecter.
I alpologize for being much to short tempered (ie all the caps locks and bloody's)


*sighs* *feels dirty*  :P  

[Neobaron]

 ahhhhhh... so YOURE the dead eye chap that everyones been asking me if im helping =-P

Im too new at this...

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The only warnig i got about all this was when Juska sent me a message rambling on about how the BA ruled the game and it was his duty to take us down... or something to that effect.

That was about 2 weeks in and the BA had 7-10 top ten spots...

Now last week the Forsworn come along and Juska maims me himself, along with a few slackers looking to make a land grab from a beaten opponent (the slackers are BS)

I also lost 2 of my members, one from overattacking, and the other as a traitor. that left us with four.

Seeing the attacking tendencies continue on Nohc, i feared for the well being of my allies, and i disbanded for their protection. I would need them.

That is why BA disbanded... i dont fear the forsworn, we just needed to regroup =-)

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I stand with Loren and Holby.  

[windhound]

 meh..  
there are currently 40 active players, probably less..  a clan of 8 players controls roughly 1/4 of the game,
though I am glad of small story line..  ^_^

oh, and Deadeye, I did say I was a bit sry about the attacks, but you had, what, 34k acers of land and no defence..  I had 1.2 mil skiffs to your ~100, it was too good to pass up..  and I did it when your account was offline and I only attacked about 5 times, much softer than I would have normally done with someone who had just heavily attacked my allies..  and Juska heavily attacked my clan's leader (even if it was retal), and had 17k acers of land, so meh..  
*yawneth*
it's like windy's not expected to attack..  I made Nero too peaceful :lol:

Loren will triumph methinks, we are smaller, but overall stronger :P  

[Germania]

 Nice to see some discussion about the game these days.

[Holby]

 I spent two and a half hours writing a post which addressed every comment in this thread, my views and reasons, and reflection on the game. The power went out.
I do not have the energy to repeat it.