Last Word

[Peace Alliance]

darn you alazar, i had it for 2 days there with that joke that nobody got....

[Arguia Zsah]

Lol, you like correcting things

You guys are just rubbish at languages ;)

-laughs-

You guys are just rubbish at language.

=D

You forgot a period!

/flee

Anyways, what sort of nonsensical nonsense have i missed?

Another difference between English and American English -laughs-

Anyways, no, I didn't. It was eated by the smiley.

[Firetooth]

Anyone here play Tribal Wars? A friend sent me a link. It is kind of like a cross between RWL and AoE, only with several thousand players.

I played it once and quit 'cause someone wrecked me really bad.
And I was away for a while 'cause I fell through time after cooking a evil egg :-X
Oh and by the way is this 1853? Im trying to kill george bushes grandfather so he was never born -laughs evily-

Lol, you like correcting things

You guys are just rubbish at languages ;)

-laughs-

You guys are just rubbish at language.

=D

You forgot a period!

/flee

Anyways, what sort of nonsensical nonsense have i missed?

To much. :P

[Alazar is Back]

Anyone here play Tribal Wars? A friend sent me a link. It is kind of like a cross between RWL and AoE, only with several thousand players.

I played it once and quit 'cause someone wrecked me really bad.
And I was away for a while 'cause I fell through time after cooking a evil egg :-X
Oh and by the way is this 1853? Im trying to kill george bushes grandfather so he was never born -laughs

Lol, you like correcting things

You guys are just rubbish at languages ;)

-laughs-

You guys are just rubbish at language.

=D

You forgot a period!

/flee

Anyways, what sort of nonsensical nonsense have i missed?

Another difference between English and American English -laughs-

Anyways, no, I didn't. It was eated by the smiley.

Lol, you like correcting things

You guys are just rubbish at languages ;)

-laughs-

You guys are just rubbish at language.

=D

You forgot a period!

/flee

Anyways, what sort of nonsensical nonsense have i missed?

evily-

Lol, you like correcting things

You guys are just rubbish at languages ;)

-laughs-

You guys are just rubbish at language.

=D

You forgot a period!

/flee

Anyways, what sort of nonsensical nonsense have i missed?

To much. :P

Waayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy toooooooooooo muuuuuuuuuuuuuuucccccccccccccccccchhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Shade]

That was made of win

[Firetooth]

Aiee!Is this the year 1853 or not?
I AM THAT IS-INNIT!

[Firetooth]

I am that is...Innit!sorry chav redwall doesn't work...

[Firetooth]

Anyone here play Tribal Wars? A friend sent me a link. It is kind of like a cross between RWL and AoE, only with several thousand players.

I played it once and quit 'cause someone wrecked me really bad.
And I was away for a while 'cause I fell through time after cooking a evil egg :-X
Oh and by the way is this 1853? Im trying to kill george bushes grandfather so he was never born -laughs

Lol, you like correcting things

You guys are just rubbish at languages ;)

-laughs-

You guys are just rubbish at language.

=D

You forgot a period!

/flee

Anyways, what sort of nonsensical nonsense have i missed?

Another difference between English and American English -laughs-

Anyways, no, I didn't. It was eated by the smiley.

Lol, you like correcting things

You guys are just rubbish at languages ;)

-laughs-

You guys are just rubbish at language.

=D

You forgot a period!

/flee

Anyways, what sort of nonsensical nonsense have i missed?

evily-

Lol, you like correcting things

You guys are just rubbish at languages ;)

-laughs-

You guys are just rubbish at language.

=D

You forgot a period!

/flee

Anyways, what sort of nonsensical nonsense have i missed?

To much. :P

Waayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy toooooooooooo muuuuuuuuuuuuuuucccccccccccccccccchhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Faerd should die of shame he missed so much!


(Faerd is not good! He missed over two thousand bits of randomly random randomness type-things! He should die of shame! And Yes I am rubbish at languages...Im using a translation website so you can never out-type me! MUAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!)

Faerd ist nicht gut! Er hat über zwei tausend-Bit von zufällig zufälligem Zufälligkeit tippt Ding verpasst! Er sollte von Schande sterben! Und Ja bin ich Abfall an Sprachen. ..Im, den eine Übersetzungswebsite benutzt, damit Sie nie Aus Typ mich können! MUAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

[Firetooth]

das ist gut ja![/move]
Lets all read a story called:
The chronology of the history of eggs:

[move]When and why did humans begin consuming eggs?
Humans have been consuming eggs since the dawn of human time. The history is complicated and diverse; the culinary applications are innumerable. When, where, and why have people been eating eggs?

When? Since the beginning of human time.
Where? Wherever eggs could be obtained. Differerent kinds of eggs were/still are eaten in different parts of the world. Ostrich and chicken are the most common.
Why? Because eggs are relatively easy to obtain, excellent protein sources, adaptable to many different types of recipes (from simply boiled, fried, or stuffed to complicated quiche, custards or meringue), and fit the bill for meatless fasting days required by some religions. In this last role? Eggs have been the object of much socio-religious symbolism and tradition. Over time, some groups have encouraged the consumption/decoration of eggs in celebration of certain events. Others have decided eggs are filthy food which must avoided. None of this is arbitrary.

"It is likely that female game birds were, at some time in the early history of man, perceived as a source both of meat and of eggs. Men discovered that by removing from the nest eggs that they did not wish to have hatch (or that they simply wished to eat), they could induce the female jungle fowl to lay additional eggs and, indeed, to continue to lay eggs throught an extended laying season." ---The Chicken Book, Page Smith and Charles Daniel [University of Georgia Press:Athens] 1975 (p. 11-12)

"Eggs have been known to, and enjoyed by, humans for many centuries. Jungle fowl were domesticated in India by 3200 B.C.E. Record from China and Egypt show that fowl were domesticated and laying eggs for human consumption around 1400 B.C.E., and there is archaeoligical evidence for egg consumption dating back to the Neolithic age. The Romans found egg-laying hens in England, Gaul, and among the Germans. The first domesticated fowl reached North America with the second voyage of Columbus in 1493."
---Encyclopedia of Food and Culture, Solomon H. Katz, editor, William Woys Weaver, associate editor [Charles Scribner's Sons:New York] 2003, Volume 1 (p. 558)

When did people start using eggs in baking and why?
Food historians tell us the practice was ancient but they do not venture an exact place, date, or reason. The domestication of fowl (esp. chicken) greatly increased the availabiltiy of eggs to ancient peoples. This is thought by some to have begun in China in 6,000BC. About chicken.

Culinary evidence confirms breads and cakes using eggs were made by Ancient Egyptian and Roman peoples. The reason most often sited was the recognition that eggs worked as binding (thickening) agents. How did that begin? The food historians to not venture into this territory. Possibly it was a discovery based on trial and error. Many foods and cooking methods (leavened bread, roasted meats, yogurt) were "invented" this way.

"It is clear that Egyptians enjoyed their food. Nobles and priests were particularly well served, with at least forty different kinds of bread and pastries, some raised, some flat, some round, some conical, some plaited. There were some varieties made with honey, others with milk, still others with eggs."
---Food in History, Reay Tannahill [Three Rivers Press:New York] 1988 (p. 53)

"Farming the prolific chicken has allowed us to make eggs a part of our diet without harming its reproductive cycle. However, the very few ancient Greek recipes to mention eggs date from after the time of Pericles, when the chicken was introduced to Africa. It took some times for the habit of using eggs in cooking to catch on. We do hear of thagomata, made from egg whites, and various stuffings using egg yolks. On the other hand the classic cake offered as a sacrifice by the Romans, the libum, called for one egg to a pound of flour. In the Roman period pastry cooks made much use of eggs for desserts as well as cakes. Apicius (25 BC) invented baked custard: milk, honey and eggs beaten and cooked in an eartheware dish on gentle heat. Eggs really made their way into the kitchen with Apicius, who mentioned them frequently in the Ars Magirica. Beaten eggs were used as a thickening and to bind sauces and ragouts; hardboiled eggs became an ingredient of various dishes, sometimes with cheese, but here is no evidence that eggs were eaten just as they were, as a dish in themselves. This does not mean that they were not so eaten; it could simply indicate that they were not thought interesting enough for special mention."
---History of Food, Maguelonne Toussaint-Samat, translated by Anthea Bell [Barnes & Noble Books:New York] 1992 (p. 356)

Ancient Roman libum recipe (ancient translation & modern version)

These sources are good starting points for an understanding of the topic:

The Cambridge World History of Food, Kenneth F. Kiple and Kriemhild Conee Ornelas, Volume One: Chicken eggs [Cambridge University Press:Cambridge] 2000 (p. 499-508)
---includes extensive bibliography for further study; use the index to locate information on other types of eggs
History of Food, Maguelonne Toussaint-Samat [Barnes & Noble:New York] 1992 (p. 355-363)
---uses & customs, including Easter traditions
Food and Drink in Britain: From the Stone Age to the 19th Century, C. Anne Wilson [Academy Chicago:Chicago] 1991 (p. 137-148)
---as they relate to English cookery
Nectar and Ambrosia: An Encyclopedia of Food in World Mythology, Tamra Andrews [ABC-CLIO:Santa Barbara] 2000 (p. 86-87)
---rituals, customs & myths
Need facts, trivia & science? The American Egg Board is the place to go!


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Egg symbolism
"Because eggs embody the essence of life, people from ancient times to the modern day have surrounded them with magical beliefs, endowing them with the power not only to create life but to prophesy the future. Eggs symbolize birth and are believed to ensure fertility. They aslo symbolize rebirth, and thus long life and even immortality. Eggs represent life in its various stages of development, encompassing the mystery and magic of creation. Creation myths commonly describe how the universe was hatched from an egg, often laid by some mythical water bird swimming in the primordial waters...Early mythmakers viewed both the sun and the egg as the source of all life; the round, yellow yolk even symbolized the sun. Clearly, eggs had great symbolic potential...In Europe of pagan and Christian times, eggs symbolized life and resurrection. Human being have long consumed eggs of all sorts--of hens, ducks, geese, partridges, pigeons, pheasants, ostriches, peacocks, and other bird species. In legends, fairies consumed eggs of mythical birds such as the phoenix. People ate eggs for a variety of reasons. Some sought to absorb their magical properties by eating them. Others ate them to ensure fertility. In the Slavonic and Germanic lands, people also smeared their hoes with eggs, in the hope of transferring the eggs' fertility to the soil...In Iran, brides and grooms exchange eggs. In seventeeth-century France, a bride broke an egg when she first entered her new nome...The perception of eggs a symbols of fertility and embodiments of life force compelled people of certain cultures not only to shun them as food but to avoild destroying them at all costs...Some people avoided eating eggs laid by their tribal totems; certain groups of aborigines in Australia...believed they descended from the emu, so they placed strict taboos on eating eggs of these ancestral birds...Though people frequently forbade the eating of eggs, eggs were often used for divining purposes. Their widespread use in divination likely stemmed from the belief that they symbolized life--particularly life in the future. The Chinese and certain tribal groups in souther Asia used the eggs of chickens or ducks to divine the future. One method involed painting the eggs, boiling them, and reading the patterns in their cracks. Another method involved tossing the eggs, and divining the future with eggs, a process known as oomancy...The concept of eggs as life symbols went hand in hand with the concept of eggs as emblems of immortality, and particularly the resurrection of Christ, who rose from a sealed tomb just as a bird breaks through an eggshell... The Jews traditionally serve eggs at Passover as a symbol of sacrifice and rebirth."
---Nectar and Ambrosia: An Encyclopedia of Food in World Mythology, Tamra Andrews [ABC-CLIO:Santa Barbara CA] 2000 (p. 86-7)

"Eggs were not really part of the diet until poultry-farming became common, and, when they did, those most usually consumed were hen's eggs...Was there some taboo...on eating the eggs of the earlier domestic fowls? It depends on thes ense in which the trm is used. Not necessarily a religious taboo, but more of an economic interdiction, since 'the egg is in the chicken, and the chicken is in the egg'. The Mossi of Burkina Faso in Africa have never troubled themselves with such philosophical reflections, but simply emply common sense. They will not let their children eat eggs for fear they will become thieves. The idea is not that...he who steals an egg will steal an ox...but because he who steals an egg is stealing a chicken. Poultry lives at large in the villages of Africa, laying eggs anywhere. Children must therefore be prevented from eating future broods, which would be community property,...An egg unnecessarily stolen and eaten will never become a chicken...Morever, and even more seriously, the spirits will be offended, for all the poultry the Mossi eat has first been sacrificed to the local tutelary spirits...The Mossi are a special example. All over the world, form the dawn of time, eggs have been collected from birds' nests in times of need...In the Far East the egg is not so important an item of diet as in Europe,...It is a luxury for the rich, with all the symbolic and philosphical connotations that might be expected...The dyed or painted egg...is an Easter tradition of the Christian West which has proved particularly tenacious in Central Europe...The tradition of easter eggs coincides,...with a self-explanatory universal symbol, in this case creation, rebirth and spring..."
---History of Food, Maugelonne Toussaint-Samat, translated by Anthea Bell [Barnes and Noble Books:New York] 1992 (p. 355-362)

"Considering the strange biological history of the egg, it is not surpring that its symbolic power is rivaled only by that of the cock. In Egypt eggs were hung in the temples to encourage fertility, and everywhere, of course, they have been associated with birth and renewal. The Hindu description of the beginning of the world saw it as a cosmic egg. First hrere was nonbeing and then that nonbeing became existent and turned into an enourmous egg, which incubated for a year and then split open, with one part silver and the other gold. The silver half became the earth; the gold, the sky; the outer membrane, mountains; the inner, mist and clouds; the veins were rivers, and the fluid part of the egg was the ocean, and from all of these came in turn the sun. In certain other religions the egg was equated with the sun and the yolk was seen as a kind of mixture of earth and water..."
---The Chicken Book, Page Smith & Charles Daniel [University of Georgia Press:Athens GA] 2000 (p. 184)



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Deviled eggs
The origin of deviled eggs can't be attributed to one specific person, company, date or town. It is a culinary amalgam of history and taste. The concept of deviled eggs begins with Ancient Rome. Spicy stuffed eggs were known in 13th century Andalusia. The name is an 18th century invention.

Not long after the Ancient Greeks and Romans domesticated fowl, egg dishes of all kinds figured prominently in cookery texts. Eggs were eaten on their own (omelets, scrambled) and employed as congealing agents (custard, flan, souffles). The ancestor of deviled eggs? Ancient Roman recipes for boiled (to various degrees) eggs served with spices poured on top:

[327] "Boiled eggs. Are seasoned with broth, oil, pure wine, or are served with broth, pepper and laser."
--Apicius: Cooking and Dining in Imperial Rome, edited and translated by Joseph Dommers Vehling [Dover:New York] 1977 (p. 180)

"Soft-boiled eggs," The Classical Cookbook, Andrew Dalby and Sally Grainger [J.Paul Getty Museum:Los Angeles] 1996 (p. 177)
---features pine kernels, lovage, celery leaf, fish sauce, honey, white wine vinegar, and black pepper

"Pine nut sauce for medium-boiled eggs," A Taste of Ancient Rome, Ilaria Gozzini Giacosa, translated by Anna Herklotz [University of Chicago:Chicago] 1992 (p. 47)
---features medium boiled eggs, pine nuts, vinegar, honey, pepper & lovage

The first recipes for stuffed, hard-boiled were printed in medieval European texts. These cooks stuffed their eggs with raisins, cheese and sweet spices. Platina's De Honesta Voluptate [15th century Italian text] instructs cooks thusly:

"28. Stuffed eggs
Make fresh eggs hard by cooking for a long time. Then, when the shells are removed, cut the eggs through the middle so that the white is not damaged. When the yolks are removed, pound part with raisins and good cheese, some fresh and some aged. Reserve part to color the mixture, and also add a little finely cut parsley, marjoram, and mint. Some put in two or more egg whites withspices. When the whites of the eggs have been stuffed with this mixture and closed, fry them over slow fire in oil. When they have been fried, add a sauce made from the rest of the egg yolks pounded with raisins and moistened with verjuice and must. Put in ginger, cloves, and cinnamon and heat them a little while with the eggs themselves. This has more harm than good in it."
---Platina: on the Right Pleasure and Good Health, Critical edition and translation of De Honesta Voluptate et Valetudine, Mary Ella Milham [Medival & Renaissance Texts & Studies:Tempe AZ] 1998
The Making of Stuffed Eggs, An Anonymous Andalusian Cookbook of the 13th Century, translated by Charles Perry

The practice of hard boiling eggs was popular in Tudor England: "By the later sixteenth century the boiling of eggs in their shells in water had become a common practice. Prepared thus they were more digestible that roasted eggs; but less so than poached eggs, which always earned the highest praise form the medical men."
---Food and Drink in Britain, C. Anne Wilson [Academy Chicago Publishers:Chicago] 1991 (p. 144)

According to historic cookbooks, the practice of boiling eggs, extracting the yolks and combining them with savory spices (mustard, cayenne pepper) and refilling the eggs with the mixture was common in latter years of the 16th century and was the "norm" by the 17th.

"To Farce Eggs
Take eight or ten eggs and boil them hard. Peel off the shells and cut every egg in the middle; then out the yolks. Make your farcing stuff as you do for flesh, saving only you must put butter into it instead of suet, and that a little. So done, fill your eggs where the yolks were, and then bring them and seethe them a little. And so serve them to the table."
---The Good Housewife's Jewel, Thomas Dawson, with an introduction by Maggie Black [London 1596] (p. 86)
"The Second Way
Fry some parsley, some minced leeks, and young onions, when you have fried them pour them into a dish season them with salt and pepper, and put to them hard eggs cut in halves, put some mustard to them, and dish the eggs, mix the sauce well together, and pour it hot on the eggs."
---The Accomplisht Cook, Robert May [London, 5th edition 1685] (p. 435)
[NOTE: Robert May's text lists six ways "To dress hard eggs divers ways." Though none of these recipes are specifically called "deviled" they are strikingly similar to the deviled eggs we are served today.

"Eggs in Mustard Sauce
Sodde Egges: Seeth your Egges almost harde, then peele them and cut them in quarters, then take a little Butter in a frying panne and melt it a little broune, then put to it in to the panne, a little Vinegar, Mustarde, Pepper and Salte, and then put it into a platter upon your Egges."
---A Taste of History: 10,000 Years of Food in Britain, Tudor Britain, Peter Brears [British Museum Press:London] 1997 (p.162

[Gen. Volkov]

Technically, Immortal simply means not being killed.
The big bang does its thing, and even though it reduces me to a mass of particles, I still live.

Your immortality is based on the universe you inhabit though, when that universe fundamentally changes, everything you have done is basically thrown out the window. Your RDG was a product of the universe it was built in, thus anything you changed with it was made moot when the universe changed.

In the new universe, photons have enough mass to stagger someone if a beam of light is pointed directly at them.

LOL. *Shines laser pointer around, it having become the red dot of DOOM.*

[Shadow]

*Uses a flashlight beam as a battering ram to free Volkov and Bjorn from their prisons*

*pins the remnants of the Faerd/RDG to the wall using a carbon laser, where it will slowly be ground into dust by the immense pressure exerted by the light*

[bjornredtail]

Oh, thanks...

Though I have to admit these new physics rules are kindof annoying. *braces self before firing argon-gas laser into the RDG's aiming scope*

[Alazar is Back]

firetooth get your own ideas.....

[Firetooth]

i actually did that earlier on in the topic when we were talking about monty pyhon

[Firetooth]

The laws of physics do not apply to me, I have one weakness though...bannanas!