Nohc is dead

[sh0e]

wow, many kills this round, someone just died a few minutes ago... :huh:

spelling and punctuation arent the best right now, im tired..

shush grammar nazi.. spelling and punctuation is overrated.

[Theilt]

thats probably the worst possible analogy and i am greatly confused by your logic (or lack thereof)
if your wife robbed a bank would you be arrested? would anyone really say you are responsible for the robbery?

True, I suppose it doesn't get across the correct idea.

What I was trying to illustrate is that they were in very close association, and thus, actions of one put the other in very bad light.

[Juby (Tercios)]

"Some" of your clanmembers seems to include your assistant. That is a bit like saying "Hey, it was my wife that robbed the bank, not me". If you don't trust his judgement, then maybe he shouldn't have been promoted to assistant.

I know the war is all settled, but I just wanted to poke a finger in your side... :-D

*Bows* I am currently respecting Nohc's decision to put Hydra and KOWW to ally... though I am sincerely annoyed because one of them hit right before we were set to that.

Heh... a Woof member took 12k land from me right before the alliance. Just take it in stride. :-D

excuse you?  I am the CURRENT assistant leader of WOOF and I resent lies being told about me, I had nothing to do with any kill, name names, not ranks.  And I make no apologies for taking those 12K acres, truth be told I was going for kills because from my perspective, Nohc was killed by KOWW for no reason (alliance to hydra isn't a reason, get them to do their own dirty work, or at least help in it), Two additional members were almost killed and would have been had we not kicked them out of the clan.  I did not care what any of you had to say or who started it because actions like that cannot be tolerated, I was prepared to die fighting, you should thank nohc for stopping me.

[Theilt]

excuse you?  I am the CURRENT assistant leader of WOOF and I resent lies being told about me, I had nothing to do with any kill, name names, not ranks.  And I make no apologies for taking those 12K acres, truth be told I was going for kills because from my perspective, Nohc was killed by KOWW for no reason (alliance to hydra isn't a reason, get them to do their own dirty work, or at least help in it), Two additional members were almost killed and would have been had we not kicked them out of the clan.  I did not care what any of you had to say or who started it because actions like that cannot be tolerated, I was prepared to die fighting, you should thank nohc for stopping me.

Date/Time     Attacker     Defender     Outcome
Fri, 2 Apr 2004 14:13:17 -0800    The Lords of Metallica (#16)
Clan: Woof    Caprisun Wild Cherry (#10)
Clan: Hydra    Guerilla Strike
2 Acres
Fri, 2 Apr 2004 14:13:11 -0800    The Lords of Metallica (#16)
Clan: Woof    Caprisun Wild Cherry (#10)
Clan: Hydra    Guerilla Strike
2 Acres
Fri, 2 Apr 2004 14:13:07 -0800    The Lords of Metallica (#16)
Clan: Woof    Caprisun Wild Cherry (#10)
Clan: Hydra    Guerilla Strike
1 Acres
Fri, 2 Apr 2004 14:13:02 -0800    The Lords of Metallica (#16)
Clan: Woof    Caprisun Wild Cherry (#10)
Clan: Hydra    Guerilla Strike
2 Acres
Fri, 2 Apr 2004 14:12:56 -0800    The Lords of Metallica (#16)
Clan: Woof    Caprisun Wild Cherry (#10)
Clan: Hydra    Guerilla Strike
3 Acres
Fri, 2 Apr 2004 14:12:51 -0800    The Lords of Metallica (#16)
Clan: Woof    Caprisun Wild Cherry (#10)
Clan: Hydra    Guerilla Strike
1 Acres
Fri, 2 Apr 2004 14:12:46 -0800    The Lords of Metallica (#16)
Clan: Woof    Caprisun Wild Cherry (#10)
Clan: Hydra    Guerilla Strike
2 Acres
Fri, 2 Apr 2004 14:12:41 -0800    The Lords of Metallica (#16)
Clan: Woof    Caprisun Wild Cherry (#10)
Clan: Hydra    Guerilla Strike
1 Acres
Fri, 2 Apr 2004 14:12:36 -0800    The Lords of Metallica (#16)
Clan: Woof    Caprisun Wild Cherry (#10)
Clan: Hydra    Guerilla Strike
4 Acres
Fri, 2 Apr 2004 14:12:24 -0800    The Lords of Metallica (#16)
Clan: Woof    Caprisun Wild Cherry (#10)
Clan: Hydra    Guerilla Strike
3 Acres
Fri, 2 Apr 2004 14:12:20 -0800    The Lords of Metallica (#16)
Clan: Woof    Caprisun Wild Cherry (#10)
Clan: Hydra    Guerilla Strike
3 Acres

Those are the last events before Caprisun Wild Cherry (#10)'s death. At the time, The Lords of Metallica (#16) was the assistant. Now he is the leader. Got it?

And I make no apologies for taking those 12K acres, truth be told I was going for kills because from my perspective, Nohc was killed by KOWW for no reason (alliance to hydra isn't a reason, get them to do their own dirty work, or at least help in it)

So, wait, you make no apologies to me because of Nohc's death, which you blame completely on KOWW? I am not in the KOWW clan. Why do you seem to blame me, then?

Now, I also want to question why you took credit for those 12k acres, which you seem rather sure that you took. The "CURRENT assistant leader of WOOF" is Vladika Njegos (#5). The 12k acres were taken by the second diplomat of Woof, Garagas Ledavas (#9). If you are the assistant leader, how did you take 12k acres? Vladika Njegos has never even attacked me, nor have I attacked him. You either use two accounts, or some changes took place to the clan structure after you posted.

I was prepared to die fighting, you should thank nohc for stopping me.

If you are Garagas Ledavas (#9), then I would like to note that I could have killed you, but I stopped by my own command. I took some acres, but then figured better of it. From the messages "kill #9", I figured that other people were running out of turns, or something similar, so I figured I could prevent the death. Don't get me wrong, I had enough turns. I easily could have killed him, but I didn't.

[thraka]

 Chil Jobyl, and just remember the prozac.  :D

The only thing i have to add to this fiasco here is that yes we did kill nohc. I did what the clan was going to do. Was it right?? Dunno don't care. Its over now. What i don't understand and Joby there has already had this convo with me lately is that of attacking online.
When i first started this game a few rounds ago it was pretty clear to me that if u attacked someone online u were asking to die or be severly beaten down with a rather large wet noodle. It was just unsportsman like to not be able to set up ur defences and to be able to use ur turns to make a defense so that when u logged off u had a better chance of surviving attacks. However even before nohc was killed and yes especially afterwards i was attacked multiple times while online. All from clan woof. shOe, Lords of Metallica, and even Joby. All had excuses on why they can attack me online and such due to one thing or another that had happened but whoop dee do! Game has its unregistered rules such as no hitting online. Retals are fine for hits over 3 in a row. U poison me i kill u. SO on and so on. Basic courteous in the game. True killing clan mates one by one due to the huge clan war was a bit much but at least we did it in the style that u should go about it. Give them a chance to defend themselves, wait for them to go offline and then the entire caln gets together to hit them. I think now with clans this kind of thing is much more possible and makes an interesting twist on the game as well. Besides we all kow that if u do not want to die then don't join a freaking clan. Its the only way u can die in this game really.

I dunno. I know this is going to spark some more conterversy but oh well. Its something i had to say and i have been spouting it off for a while now.
But we all friends now..... kinda...... and thus lets see what happens from here on in.

Ciao

[Theilt]

Besides we all kow that if u do not want to die then don't join a freaking clan. Its the only way u can die in this game really.

Yeah, but little choice do I have. With KOWW, Woof, and Hydra in an alliance, I can't go solo. I will be the farm of them all!

[Garagas Ledavas]

Date/Time     Attacker     Defender     Outcome
Fri, 2 Apr 2004 14:13:17 -0800    The Lords of Metallica (#16)
Clan: Woof    Caprisun Wild Cherry (#10)
Clan: Hydra    Guerilla Strike
2 Acres
Fri, 2 Apr 2004 14:13:11 -0800    The Lords of Metallica (#16)
Clan: Woof    Caprisun Wild Cherry (#10)
Clan: Hydra    Guerilla Strike
2 Acres
Fri, 2 Apr 2004 14:13:07 -0800    The Lords of Metallica (#16)
Clan: Woof    Caprisun Wild Cherry (#10)
Clan: Hydra    Guerilla Strike
1 Acres
Fri, 2 Apr 2004 14:13:02 -0800    The Lords of Metallica (#16)
Clan: Woof    Caprisun Wild Cherry (#10)
Clan: Hydra    Guerilla Strike
2 Acres
Fri, 2 Apr 2004 14:12:56 -0800    The Lords of Metallica (#16)
Clan: Woof    Caprisun Wild Cherry (#10)
Clan: Hydra    Guerilla Strike
3 Acres
Fri, 2 Apr 2004 14:12:51 -0800    The Lords of Metallica (#16)
Clan: Woof    Caprisun Wild Cherry (#10)
Clan: Hydra    Guerilla Strike
1 Acres
Fri, 2 Apr 2004 14:12:46 -0800    The Lords of Metallica (#16)
Clan: Woof    Caprisun Wild Cherry (#10)
Clan: Hydra    Guerilla Strike
2 Acres
Fri, 2 Apr 2004 14:12:41 -0800    The Lords of Metallica (#16)
Clan: Woof    Caprisun Wild Cherry (#10)
Clan: Hydra    Guerilla Strike
1 Acres
Fri, 2 Apr 2004 14:12:36 -0800    The Lords of Metallica (#16)
Clan: Woof    Caprisun Wild Cherry (#10)
Clan: Hydra    Guerilla Strike
4 Acres
Fri, 2 Apr 2004 14:12:24 -0800    The Lords of Metallica (#16)
Clan: Woof    Caprisun Wild Cherry (#10)
Clan: Hydra    Guerilla Strike
3 Acres
Fri, 2 Apr 2004 14:12:20 -0800    The Lords of Metallica (#16)
Clan: Woof    Caprisun Wild Cherry (#10)
Clan: Hydra    Guerilla Strike
3 Acres

Those are the last events before Caprisun Wild Cherry (#10)'s death. At the time, The Lords of Metallica (#16) was the assistant. Now he is the leader. Got it?


So, wait, you make no apologies to me because of Nohc's death, which you blame completely on KOWW? I am not in the KOWW clan. Why do you seem to blame me, then?

Now, I also want to question why you took credit for those 12k acres, which you seem rather sure that you took. The "CURRENT assistant leader of WOOF" is Vladika Njegos (#5). The 12k acres were taken by the second diplomat of Woof, Garagas Ledavas (#9). If you are the assistant leader, how did you take 12k acres? Vladika Njegos has never even attacked me, nor have I attacked him. You either use two accounts, or some changes took place to the clan structure after you posted.



If you are Garagas Ledavas (#9), then I would like to note that I could have killed you, but I stopped by my own command. I took some acres, but then figured better of it. From the messages "kill #9", I figured that other people were running out of turns, or something similar, so I figured I could prevent the death. Don't get me wrong, I had enough turns. I easily could have killed him, but I didn't.

I am not Juby, I am me ;)  

[Theilt]

I am not Juby, I am me ;)

Which confuses me, since he takes credit for those 12k acres.

[Gen. Volkov]

 I attacked online yes, but after Nohc was killed. The only time I attack online is when there is a war on. And actually I didn't realize the person I was attacking was online. I usually try to refrain from online attacks even when there is a war going on.

As to large aid chunks.. that certainly would chill my blood.

And I did kill Caprisun. he was at 235 land or something like that, and a clanmate asked me to finish him off. SO I did. Nohc is cool with it. So lets just stop shall we?

[Juby (Tercios)]

 I thought you were capt term who I took alot of land from before the truce.
As for online attacking, if I am immenesly attacked (doesn't apply here but for future reference), I don't check if someone is online, I enter their number in and attack, The same goes for killing, if my clan mate, leader no less, is killed then I don't care about what you consider sportsmanship, that's like in Hockey, somebody does something terrible and cheap, hits your team captain in the back of the head with his stick, do you wait for the next game and body check him? No, you start punching!  you can't complain about getting punched when theirs blood or your stick.  As I said earlier, Nohc did nothing to Koww or Hydra, and was killed, a member of hydra died from volkov and garagas, koww kills nohc?  that's just wrong.  I was trying to kill you justifyably,you talk about how i didn't give you a chance to fight back?  I could have waited for you to go offline and let you find yourself dead, I'd like to see you fight back dieing offline, or i could give you chance to know what was going down and actually give you chance to defend yourself.

[Theilt]

I thought you were capt term who I took alot of land from before the truce.

Ah, ok, that makes more sense. I am Eveblood (#21).

[Garagas Ledavas]

I thought you were capt term who I took alot of land from before the truce.
As for online attacking, if I am immenesly attacked (doesn't apply here but for future reference), I don't check if someone is online, I enter their number in and attack, The same goes for killing, if my clan mate, leader no less, is killed then I don't care about what you consider sportsmanship, that's like in Hockey, somebody does something terrible and cheap, hits your team captain in the back of the head with his stick, do you wait for the next game and body check him? No, you start punching!  you can't complain about getting punched when theirs blood or your stick.  As I said earlier, Nohc did nothing to Koww or Hydra, and was killed, a member of hydra died from volkov and garagas, koww kills nohc?  that's just wrong.  I was trying to kill you justifyably,you talk about how i didn't give you a chance to fight back?  I could have waited for you to go offline and let you find yourself dead, I'd like to see you fight back dieing offline, or i could give you chance to know what was going down and actually give you chance to defend yourself.

Huh? I never went for any kills. I only attack for land.

[Nohcnonk]

 Er, you kinda smashed him a ton, then Volkov finished him off... right?

[sh0e]

However even before nohc was killed and yes especially afterwards i was attacked multiple times while online. All from clan woof. shOe, Lords of Metallica, and even Joby. All had excuses on why they can attack me online and such due to one thing or another that had happened but whoop dee do! Game has its unregistered rules such as no hitting online. Retals are fine for hits over 3 in a row. U poison me i kill u. SO on and so on. Basic courteous in the game. True killing clan mates one by one due to the huge clan war was a bit much but at least we did it in the style that u should go about it. Give them a chance to defend themselves, wait for them to go offline and then the entire caln gets together to hit them. I think now with clans this kind of thing is much more possible and makes an interesting twist on the game as well. Besides we all kow that if u do not want to die then don't join a freaking clan. Its the only way u can die in this game really.

I dunno. I know this is going to spark some more conterversy but oh well. Its something i had to say and i have been spouting it off for a while now.
But we all friends now..... kinda...... and thus lets see what happens from here on in.

Ciao

bs.

[Garagas Ledavas]

Er, you kinda smashed him a ton, then Volkov finished him off... right?

Nope. I never attacked Caprisun Cherry.