The Beatles Banned

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January 15, 2004, 03:34:59 PM
 The Beatles and all associated accounts have been banned for the next month, because of his disregard for the rules, and for hacking into one of the Admin/Mod accounts to read the staff only message boards, and our boards on the BAXX (the flexible released version of BAX) development. It is sad that he has sunk to such a level, and he should be ashamed.

If he attempts to circumvent this ban for any reason at all, his penalty will be increased.
The 'ittle otter,
Retto

bjornredtail

#1
January 15, 2004, 04:56:44 PM
 The Burnite account received a PM yesterday from Wolf Bite's account. It asked if we wanted to see the admin forums. I did not send a reply, but just browsed the forums as usual. What I am wondering is if Wolf Bite actually sent that PM, or was his account, and admin privileges somehow compromised?  If Wolf Bite did send that message, were the other admin's alerted to this move?
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#2
January 15, 2004, 05:00:52 PM
 No, the last line of my PM was:

" But then I have a quesiton for you, how are you reading the staff Forum? "


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#3
January 15, 2004, 05:01:39 PM
 In case anyone forgot, that means Retto banned Burninate. And I was hoping to get banned for a double post.

bjornredtail

#4
January 15, 2004, 05:02:38 PM
 Must have mis-read then. To confirm, is it possable to remove Burnite from banned names, and allow us to archive the messages?
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#5
January 15, 2004, 05:03:00 PM
Quote from: wolf biteNo, the last line of my PM was:

" But then I have a quesiton for you, how are you reading the staff Forum? "


Wolf Bite
The thing that kills me here is: Who said he read it? Who said someone else didn't hack and tell him. Or what if an admin/mod leaked?

wolf bite

#6
January 15, 2004, 05:12:52 PM
 Beatles was given several opportunities to tell how he knew what was written on the Staff Forum, he refused to give a reason.  All Admins and Mods where asked if they had stated that information out to anyone, none had.  Surly if there is another way he could have known it besides accessing a Mod or Admin account, then he can tell us and we will all have a group hug.


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#7
January 15, 2004, 05:14:22 PM
Quote from: wolf biteBeatles was given several opportunities to tell how he knew what was written on the Staff Forum, he refused to give a reason.  All Admins and Mods where asked if they had stated that information out to anyone, none had.  Surly if there is another way he could have known it besides accessing a Mod or Admin account, then he can tell us and we will all have a group hug.


Wolf Bite
I have already provided another answer. Besides, who would want to cover that. I'm sure none of the mods would save Beatle's for the risk of the wrath of Retto.

The Voice

#8
January 15, 2004, 05:16:59 PM
 But there is no proff Beatles hacked, besides the fact that he knew. There is no trace of a hack, and you are going on instinct. Maybe he was guessing what was on the forum. With no proper proff. I know there was something about not giving source code was against law. Isn't punishing someone for something you can't prove they did also against the law. Dont say he hacked, say you believe he hacked, and you do not like him. And that he broke rules, like double posting and such. Sounds good to me!  :D  
So quiet
Another wasted night
The television steals
The conversation
Exhale
Another wasted breath
Again it goes unnoticed.

Please tell me you're
Just feeling tired
'cause if it's more than
That I feeel that I might break
Out of touch  out of time.
Please send me anything
But signals that are mixed
Cause I can't read
Your rolling eyes
Out of touch  
Are we out of time?

Close lipped
Another goodnight kiss
Is robbed of all it's passion,
Your grip
Another time, is slack
It leaves me feeling empty.

I'll wait until tomorrow
Maybe you'll feel better then
Maybe we'll be better then
So what's another day
When I can't bear
These nights of thoughts
Of going on without you
This mood of yours is temporary
It seems worth the wait
To see your smile again
Out of the corner of your eye
Won't be the only way
You'll look at me then.


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I'm missing your bed  
I never sleep
Avoiding the spots
where we'd have to speak
And this bottle of
beast is taking me home.
I'm cuddling close
to blankets and sheets
You're not alone
and you're not discreet.
You make sure I know  
who's taking you home.
I'm reading your
note over again.
There is not a word
that I comprehend
except when you signed it
"I will love you always
and forever"

As for now I'm gonna
hear the saddest songs,
and sit alone and wonder
how you're making out
But as for me I wish that I was anywhere
With anyone
making out

I'm missing your laugh,
how did it break?
And when did your eyes
begin to look fake?
I hope you're as happy
as your pretending.
I'm missing your bed,
I never sleep.
Avoiding the spots
where we'd have to sleep.
And this bottle of
Beast is taking me home.

Your hair
It's everywhere
Screaming infidelities
Taking it's wear
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Consider the odds
consider the obvious.
The martyr is meaningless
the campaign has died.
In the planning stages
and the fallen faces
are the singular proof
that it was ever alive.

This purchased rebellion
has been outdated
denounced and rescinded
and left to die championless.
I begged you not to go.
I begged you  I pleaded.
Claimed you as my only hope
and watched the floor
as you retreated.

Hope has sprung a perfect dive
a perfect day, a perfect lie.
A slowly crafted monologue
conceding your defeat.

Does it comfort you to know
you fought the good fight?
Basking in your victory,
hollow and alone
to boast your bitter
bragging rights
to anyone who'll listen.
While you're left with
nothing tangible to gain
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Whatever poisons in this bottle
will leave me broken, sore and stiff
But it's the genie at the bottom who I'm sucking at,
he owes me one last wish
So here's a present to let you know I still exist
I hope the next boy that you kiss has something terribly contagious on his lips

But I got a plan (I got a plan)
To drink for forty days and forty nights
A sip for every second-hand tick
And every time you fed the line,
?you mean so much to me?
I'm without you

Tell all the English boys you meet
about the American boy back in the states
The American boy you used to date
who would do anything you say
Tell all the English boys you meet
about the American boy back in the states
The American boy you used to date
who would do anything you say

And even if her plane crashes tonight
she'll find some way to disappoint me,
by not burning in the wreckage,
or drowning at the bottom of the sea
Jess, I still taste you, and thus reserve my right to hate you
And all this empty space that you create
does nothing for my flawless sense of style
It's 8:45 (it's 8:45), the weather is getting better by the hour (rains all the time)
I hope it rains there all the time
And if you ever said you miss me then don't say you never lied
I'm without you

Tell all the English boys you meet
about the American boy back in the states
The American boy you used to date
who would do anything you say
Tell all the English boys you meet
about the American boy back in the states
The American boy you used to date
who would do anything you say,
who would do anything you say

Never gonna get it right, you're never gonna get it [15x]

Okay no more songs about you. After this one I am done.
You're gone.[repeat untill end]

Tell all the English boys you meet
about the American boy back in the states
The American boy you used to date
who would do anything you say
Tell all the English boys you meet
about the American boy back in the states
The American boy you used to date
who would do anything you say
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Last night I swallowed liquor and a lighter
and this morning I threw up fire
But it's nothing new
I've been piecing it together and it's got something to do
with every look thrown like a knife across a crowded room
And every slow and quiet car ride I spent drinking in the backseat
Every stupid melody to every stupid song,
and every stupid word that everybody's hanging on

What difference does this difference in age make?
I know how it ends... she'll kill me quick.
Call 911, I'm already dead but
someone should be caught and held responsible
for this bloody mess

Last night I fell asleep next to a liar
and I woke up with a shiner
And it's all that I remember from a night spent lying on my back with a view
of a stone white ceiling and the back of your head
And this quiet dark bed feels like the middle of nowhere
And we beat each other up just like we always do
When I'm talking to myself I'd always rather be talking to you

What difference does this difference in age make?
I know how it ends... she'll kill me quick.
Call 911, I'm already dead but
someone should be caught and held responsible
for this bloody mess

Call homicide, take the case to court
Cause her lips taste like a loaded gun
I'm her number one chalk outline on the floor

They hung her from the bridge on Monday
The gathering turned to a mob out on the lawn
They dropped her body in the river
School and work returned to normal before long
(before long... and no one will mention any of this again)

Call 911, I'm already dead but
someone should be caught and held responsible
for this bloody mess

Call homicide, take the case to court
Cause her lips taste like a loaded gun
I'm her number one chalk outline on the floor
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I got a twenty-dollar bill
That says no one's ever seen you without makeup.
You're always made up.
And I'm sick of your tattoos
and the way you always criticize the Smiths.
and Morrissey.

And I know that you're a sucker for anything acoustic.
But when I say let's keep in touch,
I really mean I wish that you'd grow up.
This is the first song for your mix tape.
It's short just like your temper,
But somewhat golden like the afternoons
We used to spend before you got too cool.

I got a twenty-dollar bill
that says no one's ever seen you without makeup.
You're always made up.
And I'm sick of your tattoos
And the way you don?t appreciate Brand New
And me.

And I know that you're a sucker for anything acoustic.
But when I say let's keep in touch,
I hope you know I mean I wish that you?d grow up
This is the first song for your mix tape
And it?s short just like your temper
But somewhat golden like the afternoons
We used to spend before you got too cool.

Yeah, but I wish you were my shadow [repeat 4x]
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So people ask my why I have a big signature and I say...
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To annoy people

The Lady Shael

#9
January 15, 2004, 06:06:38 PM
 Yes. I'd probably like him better if he did not break the rules. That's pretty much the problem. It's hard to just hate somebody. They need to do something before you hate them. So, they chose to go against the rules, and were warned many times, and never desisted.

So you're banned. Congratulations. That was what you wanted, and you got it. So stop acting all high and mighty. Martyrs? Right. Now everyone's going to admire you, because you disrupted the forums, deliberately provoked the admins, and intentionally got yourselves banned. That's not something to be proud of.  
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#10
January 15, 2004, 06:12:48 PM
 I still don't understand why you have banned him with no proof that he was hacking.  And going around and changing your mind durring the ban, which was original due to hacking, to him double posting and you not liking him is VERY low.
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Peace Alliance

#11
January 15, 2004, 06:31:43 PM
 I'd argue... But whats the point?

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Retto

#12
January 15, 2004, 06:32:49 PM
 Um. We have a good deal of evidence - enough to convince all of us. It is somewhat irksome that people aren't trusting when we make a decision, and believe that we are acting with intent to find something to ban them for.

Quite honestly, we held off banning him for quite a while to make sure that what we believed was right.
The 'ittle otter,
Retto

Peace Alliance

#13
January 15, 2004, 06:42:33 PM
 Yeah, like i told cindarin over IM, just because you haven't showed US all the evidence, doesn't mean there isnt' any. in addition, the admins have been chosen because they are expected to be capable of making these kind of decisions properly. And although as well ALL know sometimes that doesn't happen, i believe when i comes to something as big as beatles being banned (and i say that it is big because there will no doubt be MONTHS of debate about it) they put a LOT of consideration into it. Other times, like when people are being gagged, it is for things not all the admins know a lot about, and not a lot of them look into it very much... thats where mistakes can be made. (my banner? *shuts up*)

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#14
January 15, 2004, 06:54:21 PM
 What exactly is this delicate information anyhow? Just wondering... Does it have anything at all to do with RWL bugs or something?
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