Is this REALLY nessessary?

[TR Shadow]

 Ech, the point of this post is going to be hard to make because we obviously aren't allowed to say these words even when they aren't directed at anyone.

I recently saw a post made by a newbi--err...newer member at RWL with the description to the topic saying something like [Sorry, word not allowed].  This sort of made me mad.  I've always thought that rule regarding the words meaning 'new person' and 'veteran player' were totally unnecessary.  I understand that they were made for a good reason, to stop flaming, but I seriously don't think that regulating the insults we use is going to stop flaming.

"heyy u ppl, im bob & im new 2 rwl!!!!11!!11!"
"Hey, Bob, you're a n*****!"

Isn't that the same as saying:

"heyy u ppl, im bob & im new 2 rwl!!!!1!!!!111!!!11!"
"Hey, Bob, you obviously don't know what you're doing here and seriously need Hooked on Phonics or something because you can't spell!"

Does anyone see my point here?  I'm also seeing that these words aren't allowed even if you're giving an example of something or saying them in a way that they are not directed at anyone else.

New person:  Hi, I'm a n*****.  Please don't hurt me!
RWL Mod/Admin:  That word is not allowed here.  Read the rules!

This part also applies to the word that we can't say that means homosexual.  When this word is used appropriately, it shouldn't be edited out.  'Appropriately' does NOT mean:

"hi i think ur alll g** idjits!!!111!!1!1!"

If we were to say something like this, it should be acceptable:

"Please don't put anything bad in this topic like 'The person below me is g**'"

That was an example of one that actually DID get edited a long time ago (Sorry, it was the first that came to mind).  Please, if anyone agrees with me, say so.  I would hate to think that I'm the only one with this opinion.

~Julie~

[~>John<~]

 so right Ju

[Sun Jian]

 Very right.All the way.

[Quamicauzilot]

Right indeed.  I've always felt that whether the use of the nickname sometimes used for newer members is derogatory or not depends on the context, not the word itself.

[~>John<~]

 exactly, quami. Ad's a little....err.....overeager, as you will

[calria]

 I'd like to make the following points, and you can all take me seriously or not, as you choose.
1) Has anyone ever been seriously scolded by an Admin for using that particular "N" word? No.
2) Did we have a serious problem with "you're a ------"/"no, YOU are" battles for a while? Yes.
3) Have they, for the most part, stopped? Yes.

I think that the rule is more against using that word in a specific context than against the word itself.
Correct me if I'm wrong.

[~>John<~]

 they edit it even if ur referring to urself!

[bjornredtail]

 I do have to agree... Though in the mean time I might be useing the word 'Greenhorn' a fair number of time. Also, on 'G*Y' what about it's other meaning, of 'happy'?

[TR Shadow]

 Cal: I have seen the words edited out of peoples post when they were not directed at anyone.  If the words were against context, which is what I'd like to see happen, the Admins should put that in the rules.  I'll give this to you: it's not a serious problem.  There have been several times when I've wanted to use one of those words, not in a particular context, but I could not because if I did it would be edited out.  In your post, it should be okay to use the word "ne*bie" because you wern't attacking anyone with it.  Do you see what I mean?

[calria]

 Yeah, I see what you mean, but the thing is, where are the admins supposed to draw the line?
Someone's always going to think that they're going too far, or that they're not being fair by not going far enough with the bans.
I think that the Admins do what's best here. No, it's not the ideal, but nobody's ever going to agree unanimously on this.

Anyway, which is worse: The general forum population being a tad annoyed once in a blue moon because we can't use a few words with perfectly good, unbanned synonyms, or the admins having to deal with flaming, etc?

I don't think we ought to flame our Admins. That's for sure.

[The Lady Shael]

 *shakes head* Not flaming, Cal, that's a strong word. Just a slight disagreement. If the admins do give in to our wishes, it'll just be like spamming, like you said, someone will be wondering whether they went too far. Myself, I'm not terribly annoyed by not being able to use those words, but when the need arises, I feel a little irked to find a way around the barrier so I can get my message safely across.

[Ashyra Nightwing]

 *nods* I agree with you totally, Julie..

[Blackeyes]

 I agree with Julie. Ever since like four months ago things have changed around here to much. I like the fact of new people comeing in. But Ad's gotten in away out of control. I mean I think it's great he's admin and stuff. But all these new rules. I don't like it. People were aloud to call me a [edit] when I first joined. And I to them as [edit]. I say we just keep it the way it used to be. I mean being a [edit] was sort of a way of being inisciated(sp?). Now you've taken that sort of stuff away from us.

[Almkman]

 I think it is a stupid rule.Anyways I say [edit] or [edit] or whatever regardless to the rule.

[Dixie Ros?]

 It just PLAIN OLD ANNOYS me that Ne----s is not allowed. Talk about "Tight"...