All Values

[TWRWMOM]

Hi!

I'm new to this game, but played quite a lot of promisance-ish games....

I wanted to ask if there's any place I could read the exact formulas/values for......everything. Is it open-source? I could see the QM-Promisance code, but I don't know which values are the same and which are different....

Thank You!
See you in the game! :)

[windhound]

Hi and welcome!

We're based on nearly 16 year old QMT and sorta diverged on our own from there. 
tbh I don't mind sharing the code, my only concern is that a bad actor could find some vulnerability. 
Yeah, security through obscurity is no security at all, but /shrug. 
Aint nobody got time for that, we're mostly coasting here. 

A past admin got permission from the original author(s) to not release the code.

Anyways.
I'll pull some values for you, need them for the game guide redo that's on my list anyways. 

Troops - (attack / defense)
Rats: 2 / 1
Weasels: 3 / 5
Stoats: 5 / 3
Skiffs: 6 / 8
(same for all eras)

Attack types -
Standard Attack: Attack with all troops
Surprise Attack: Std attack with +25% attack power, cost +3 additional health, no allies (clan members can 'share defences', brings a small percent of their troops in for ally defense)
Guerilla Strike: Just battles Rats
Bombardment: Just battles Weasels
Frontal Assault: Just battles Stoats
Naval Assault: Just battles Skiffs


Attack modifiers (does not apply to Std attack) -
Drive: +20% attacker losses, +10% land taken
Chaos: +15% enemy losses, -20% land taken
Capture: +15% attack losses, -15% enemy losses, -10% land taken, takes a small percent of the enemy's leaders
Sack: -20% land taken, takes a small percent of the enemy's food and cash based on how many leaders you have (the more leaders you have the less you get)
Flank: a 1 in 6 chance (random) for +20% attack power & +30% attacker losses


Leaders -
Generals Hut (self-spells) -
ratio = Leaders / Huts * RaceMod

Spells: (req. ratio)
Feast:  30
Loot: 30
Raise Defense: 15
Prepare Raiders: 75
Recall Raiders: 80
Move North: 90
Move South: 90
Heal (+10 health): 95
[Magpie] Tax Break: 50
[Marten] Goldmine (extra powered loot): 80
[Ferret] RainDance: 50
[Wildcat] Pressgang (converts workers into troops) : 90
[Painted One] Pay Tribute (weaker Loot + weaker Feast combo): 30
[Stoat] Academy (converts workers to leaders): 90
[Lizard] Fortify (Extra long raise defense): 50
[Wolf] Enrich (You make more food): 50
[Fox] Cloak/Uncloak (Each cast decreases your shown networth by 1%; only affects scores, info page, and search) : 50
[Rat] Battlefield Healers (10% less losses while attacking):50


Warlords Hut (attack-spells) -
(u = user, e = enemy)
$uratio = uLeaders / ((uLand + eLand) / 2) * uRaceMod;
$eratio = ($eLeaders / $eLand * 1.05 * $eRaceMod)*(1+($eTowers/($eLand*2)));

Spells:
Espionage: $uratio > $eratio
Murder: $uratio > $eratio * 1.15
Poison: $uratio > $eratio * 1.21
Steal: $uratio > $eratio * 1.75
Incite Uprising (destroy loyalty):  $uratio > $eratio * 1.3
Sabotage (destroy buildings): $uratio > ($eratio * 1.7)
Leader Attack: Req ratio of 50, $uratio > $eratio * 2.2
Take City: Req ratio of 50, offpts > $defpts * 1.50
Make Attack Opportunity (allows you to attack a maxed enemy): Req ratio of 50, $uratio > $eratio * 1.8


That's the basics
Lemme know if you want somethin' else

[TWRWMOM]

Thank you very much

Didn't know towers could defend attack spells.....interesting, very interesting ;)

Could you please post also the differences between eras and the Magpie and Ferret spells? I'm sorry for the trouble

[windhound]

Nah, no trouble. 
All this stuff should be documented in the game guide, hoping to have time to fix it soonish.. 

Knew I was forgetting something,
Locations -
Southsward: +80% scouting bonus, +20% worker production
Mossflower: -20% troop production, +20% loyalty production
Northlands: +20% troop production, -20% loyalty production


Ferret's ability gives a chance of an extra heal while foraging (not leader feasting), based on how many foragers you have built. 
$chance = ($users[farms] / ($users[land] * 2)) * 100;
if(mt_rand(0,100) <= $chance)
    $users[health]++;

Magpie works the same way, except for looting (not leader loot) and it's based on how many markets.

[TWRWMOM]

Magpie it is! ;)

Taxes modify max workers, or only Immigration/Emigration?

[Gen. Volkov]

Immigration/emigration, but functionally it's the same thing. Higher taxes mean more money and food, but less workers will come, or even start to leave, lower taxes opposite.

[TWRWMOM]

Immigration/emigration, but functionally it's the same thing. Higher taxes mean more money and food, but less workers will come, or even start to leave, lower taxes opposite.

Why should they leave? I mean, if max is not reached...

[windhound]

Taxes affect max worker population and gain/lose rates..  here

        $popbase = round((($users[land] * 2) + ($users[freeland] * 5) + (($users[homes] + ($users[cities] * 1500)) * 60)) * (1-$users[tax]/75));
        $popbase *= $uera["t_peasants"];  //location modifier
        if ($users[peasants] != $popbase)
            $peasants = $popbase - $users[peasants];
        if ($peasants > 0)
            $peasmult = (250/20)/($users[tax]*$users[tax]-$users[tax]+5);
         else
            $peasmult = (($users[tax]-70)*($users[tax]-70)*($users[tax]-70) + 65*65*65)/(40*65*65*65)+(1/100);
        $peasants = round($peasants * $peasmult);

...I have no idea why things are being cubed

[Shadow]

cubes add legitimacy

[TWRWMOM]

Taxes affect max worker population and gain/lose rates..  here

        $popbase = round((($users[land] * 2) + ($users[freeland] * 5) + (($users[homes] + ($users[cities] * 1500)) * 60)) * (1-$users[tax]/75));
        $popbase *= $uera["t_peasants"];  //location modifier
        if ($users[peasants] != $popbase)
            $peasants = $popbase - $users[peasants];
        if ($peasants > 0)
            $peasmult = (250/20)/($users[tax]*$users[tax]-$users[tax]+5);
         else
            $peasmult = (($users[tax]-70)*($users[tax]-70)*($users[tax]-70) + 65*65*65)/(40*65*65*65)+(1/100);
        $peasants = round($peasants * $peasmult);

...I have no idea why things are being cubed

Quite ingenious this formula, even though magic numbers...thank you!

[TWRWMOM]

Last question lol

Can I have the formula for leaders immigration? I've seen games using only Huts for it, and I've seen it as a function of huts and workers....

[windhound]

Sure, we're pure hut-based, scaled on your leader/huts ratio.
They load fast, then taper off.

        if ($users[wizards] < ($users[labs] * 25))
            $wizards = round($users[labs] * 0.45);
        elseif ($users[wizards] < ($users[labs] * 50))
            $wizards = round($users[labs] * 0.30);
        elseif ($users[wizards] < ($users[labs] * 90))
            $wizards = round($users[labs] * 0.15);
        elseif ($users[wizards] < ($users[labs] * 100))
            $wizards = round($users[labs] * 0.10);
        elseif ($users[wizards] > ($users[labs] * 175))
            $wizards = round($users[wizards] * -.05);
        $users[wizards] += $wizards;

Seriously though, 's not a big deal for me to grab code snips

[Graceclaw]

How exactly does worker count affect Foraging/Looting/general resource production? Is it ratio-based or raw numbers-based?

Trying to figure out the worker-tax combination.

[Shadow]

As a method of producing cash and food workers are pretty much useless in this version of the code regardless of tax. I wouldn't bother.

[TWRWMOM]

As a method of producing cash and food workers are pretty much useless in this version of the code regardless of tax. I wouldn't bother.

Well.......poo XD

I have 2 other questions....

1 - In this formula of worker population

$popbase = round((($users[land] * 2) + ($users[freeland] * 5) + (($users[homes] + ($users[cities] * 1500)) * 60)) * (1-$users[tax]/75));

homes = weighted average of the different types of constructions (since each type can host a number of workers)? or just Tents?

2 - What happens with bank earnings when total reached the max allowed? Does bank cash counts towards total net value?