Turbo Round 62 Immortalization (3.0 Round 8)

Started by Shadow, September 28, 2012, 09:01:13 PM

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Shoot

And my own stunt double hit me... now it shall die  >:D >:D

Sevz

My battery died so I got hit by 2 stunt doubles mid run the few minutes I was offline. Lucky I didn't use many turns and I can recover but this is crusty. What's the point of everyone having a bot? They're all the same. Is there some secret reason for this that your not telling us about? My own stunt double hits me for no reason and doesn't aid back. Is it gonna come out later in the round we should of helped our next of kin and Shadow didn't say anything on purpose while he builds up a lead? Are we supposed to eliminate them for a bonus?
Something seems fishy. Windhound what's the deal?
Quote from: windhound on March 31, 2012, 05:10:16 PM
Coding out holes in the game is the best way to do things. 
Relying an the admins to patrol is a) time consuming for the admins in question b) unreliable c) only invites conflict
There is no conflict or "I didn't know any better!" excuses with a coded in rule.

Shadow

if you got hit by two stunt doubles it means you were offline for quite a while, they run 20 minutes apart

But no, there's no hidden agenda, the theme helps us see how the bots fare and how we can improve them. They've already received a couple up upgrades based on their performance this round, and the hope is to make them good enough to be actual partners for players (eg, to make stuff for players) or to work in teams to make emps that actually fight back automatically.
<=holbs-.. ..-holbs=> <=holbs-..

windhound

Ah, oops.  I originally had a snippet of code in that prevented a bot from attacking its namesake, but that got overwritten on an update.  I'll put it back in tonight.

The bots, as Shadow said, run once every 20 min at best.  The script checks to see if there are any bots listed with 550 turns, if yes it runs the first one it finds.  With the artificial pauses they can take up to 15 or so min to run, so I guess its possible one bot hit you at the very end of its run and another hit you at the beginning of its run, but that would be unusual.  The target selection is literally random.  It picks a number 1:(current number of players) and then checks that number against rules (can't attack admins, can't attack self, can't attack those that are maxxed, can't attack too high or too low, etc).  

The "'s stuntdouble" was Shadow's convenient way to name them as the idea was one bot for every signup.  

They're not really all the same.  The casher types tend to be a little stronger than the farmers and the various races and random main troop type picks means they're all a little different.

The bots only attack 5x each at most, so they don't really have that great of an effect on players.  I think only attacking 5x also limits their land intake which limits their overall growth as well, compared to players which often attack 15+ times.
/shrug
They're good for activity, makes the game seem a little fuller.  A lot of games have AI players just for this reason, although I believe we may be the first promi to do so.
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Durza

These are some interesting trains of thought, I hope they work out in the end
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Sevz

Thanks for the summary Windy it makes sense to everyone now.  :D

Does this mean my bot will stop ignoring me?
Quote from: windhound on March 31, 2012, 05:10:16 PM
Coding out holes in the game is the best way to do things. 
Relying an the admins to patrol is a) time consuming for the admins in question b) unreliable c) only invites conflict
There is no conflict or "I didn't know any better!" excuses with a coded in rule.

Shadow

<=holbs-.. ..-holbs=> <=holbs-..

Shoot

#22
One thing worth mentioning is the farmer bots basically decimated the farmer strat with oversaturation of $10 food. No hope of ever being able to play the market and get a bit more than that out of food, and selling it for any less is a networth loss pretty much.

Shadow

There are actually way to many farmers - bots have a 50% chance of being casher or farmer, but it ended up being more like an 80-20 split, heh.
<=holbs-.. ..-holbs=> <=holbs-..

Durza

windy did you get around to putting that snippet of code that prevents you double from attacking you back in?  I only ask because I was hit

just wondering
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windhound

Neg, I'm a slacker.  Sorry.

Potentially later this evening, wont take but a sec
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PhoenixOfPanem

#26
My bot attacked me as well. Multiple times :(

2 hours ago Justin Bieber\'s stunt double (#8) attacked you! Your enemy captured 40 Acres of Land and destroyed:
2,387 Skiffs
You managed to destroy:
767 Skiffs

2 hours ago Justin Bieber\'s stunt double (#8) attacked you! Your enemy captured 70 Acres of Land and destroyed:
1,106 Skiffs
You managed to destroy:
3,263 Skiffs

2 hours ago Justin Bieber\'s stunt double (#8) attacked you! Your enemy captured 106 Acres of Land and destroyed:
382 Skiffs
You managed to destroy:
3,816 Skiffs

2 hours ago Justin Bieber\'s stunt double (#8) attacked you! Your enemy captured 96 Acres of Land and destroyed:
81 Skiffs
You managed to destroy:
672 Skiffs

2 hours ago Justin Bieber\'s stunt double (#8) attacked you! Your enemy captured 69 Acres of Land and destroyed:
3,098 Skiffs
You managed to destroy:
4,300 Skiffs

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PhoenixOfPanem

And more hits.

TimeEvent
0.6 hours agoYour forces came to the aid of Blind Mag (#33) in defense from Blind Mag\'s stunt double (#34)!
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0.6 hours agoYour forces came to the aid of Blind Mag (#33) in defense from Blind Mag\'s stunt double (#34)!0.6 hours agoYour forces came to the aid of Blind Mag (#33) in defense from Blind Mag\'s stunt double (#34)!0.6 hours agoYour forces came to the aid of Blind Mag (#33) in defense from Blind Mag\'s stunt double (#34)!0.6 hours agoYour forces came to the aid of Blind Mag (#33) in defense from Blind Mag\'s stunt double (#34)!
TimeEvent
0.6 hours agoYour forces came to the aid of Blind Mag (#33) in defense from Blind Mag\'s stunt double (#34)!
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0.6 hours agoYour forces came to the aid of Blind Mag (#33) in defense from Blind Mag\'s stunt double (#34)!0.6 hours agoYour forces came to the aid of Blind Mag (#33) in defense from Blind Mag\'s stunt double (#34)!0.6 hours agoYour forces came to the aid of Blind Mag (#33) in defense from Blind Mag\'s stunt double (#34)!0.6 hours agoYour forces came to the aid of Blind Mag (#33) in defense from Blind Mag\'s stunt double (#34)!
0.6 hours ago Your forces came to the aid of Blind Mag (#33) from Blind Mag/'s stunt double (#34)!
0.6 hours ago Your forces came to the aid of Blind Mag (#33) from Blind Mag/'s stunt double (#34)!
0.6 hours ago Your forces came to the aid of Blind Mag (#33) from Blind Mag/'s stunt double (#34)!
0.6 hours ago Your forces came to the aid of Blind Mag (#33) from Blind Mag/'s stunt double (#34)!
0.6 hours ago Your forces came to the aid of Blind Mag (#33) from Blind Mag/'s stunt double (#34)!
0.6 hours ago Your forces came to the aid of Blind Mag (#33) from Blind Mag/'s stunt double (#34)!
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No, I have failed

Sevz

Windy hasn't fixed it yet, i got hit most by shadow his double and my stunt double.
It's all fixed now, stole shadows food and his stuntmans cash. 6 still has 9b unshielded.
Quote from: windhound on March 31, 2012, 05:10:16 PM
Coding out holes in the game is the best way to do things. 
Relying an the admins to patrol is a) time consuming for the admins in question b) unreliable c) only invites conflict
There is no conflict or "I didn't know any better!" excuses with a coded in rule.

Sevz

Quote from: windhound on October 06, 2012, 06:03:01 PM
Neg, I'm a slacker.  Sorry.

Potentially later this evening, wont take but a sec
Can you do this 10second task? It's past the half way mark of the round and 11 days ago you said you could do a simple change please do it quick and it's done.
Quote from: windhound on March 31, 2012, 05:10:16 PM
Coding out holes in the game is the best way to do things. 
Relying an the admins to patrol is a) time consuming for the admins in question b) unreliable c) only invites conflict
There is no conflict or "I didn't know any better!" excuses with a coded in rule.