Shadows Cheating Again

[windhound]

Dearest Snare, the LandFarm is currently clanned.
If you're not going to pay attention to the thread please don't reply to it.  Thanks.

This really does need to stop.
Making these public accusation without coming to me, Ollie or Shael first is just nonsense.
Per normal, I have no new mail.  Forum or game.  I try to keep tabs on my ingame mail and I always respond to forum PM's.  I was not alerted to the fact that Turbo's landfarm is not clanned until this thread.

I don't really want to hear any more about RWL dying either.
We go through activity spells and droughts.  Text based games have a lot more competition now as opposed to when this site was launched.  I can count the number of active promis on one hand now, it didn't used to be that way.  Changing things around is healthy.  Not everyone will like every change, but eh.  That's why we do and have always encouraged feedback.  Not the "screw change this is all awful" type, but the "I don't like feature x because ___" kind.  I've mostly heard the former tbh, its not helpful and not really paid attention to.
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Anyways.
I don't believe Shadow meant to lock land on the landfarm, its been clanned the past few rounds and it was likely assumed to be so.  It is now clanned and I consider this issue closed.  I'll add in a line so the landfarm auto-clans for future rounds.
I'm leaving this thread open, but with a warning to think carefully before replying 

[Wolf Snare]

*shakes head*

Typical. Whatever Windy. As I said, you guys call the shots. Of course, he "didn't know" he was cheating. Should have figured and not bothered.

Though, last time I checked, ignorance is no excuse. You've said it to me countless times for trivial offences. Ironic that the admin can't remember his own rules and is excused when he uses them to his benefit, isn't it?

Playing game and admin accounts should not be linked. This will solve the problem, so enforce it please. Shadow said he accidentally attacked sevz while offline. Yes, of course. Whatever. If he wasn't constantly logged into his admin account, this wouldn't be an issue. Divide accounts, cheating stops.

I don't see why anyone would be opposed to this..?

[Gen. Volkov]

Are you saying that if the landfarm was maxed and you were running turns then I onlined you and dropped it on the landfarm knowing it's maxed you'd have no problems? What if it was the second time the same day?

I'd be annoyed, but I wouldn't say you were cheating.

You're talking before 3.0 was released though volk, when anyone could open attack ops to free up the land. Initially, dishonourable land locking was outlawed by Wolf Bite years ago, who banned the formerly popular "one rat attack" and made it punishable by ban.

In that case, the person the one rat attack was used on was kept maxed. The land farm would have unmaxed, it just didn't do so right away.

More recently, Shadow created another desperate variation of dishonourable land-locking. He began onlining his opponent and dropping land to the maxed landfarm. This obviously makes the land inaccessible, and is blatant code abuse. Of course, we already had this argument and came up with the solution of clanning the land farm every round.

Makes the land inaccessible to you, but not totally inaccessible. It wasn't code abuse, but it was inconvenient, so the land farm was clanned. It's a convenience, not a right.

[Shadow]

If you go back to the thread we first had about dropping to the farm, you'll find that it is not against the rules. We clanned the farm to stop you complaining about it but we never made anything against the rules because as we have said time and again, why make a rule if you can code it out. Sorry we forgot to clan the land farm at the start of the round. But that's all it is.

I don't read messages, I don't get free espies, etc. I can't prove it any more than you can prove the baseless accusations you are making, except to say that nobody in their right mind would ever actually cheat at this game when the stakes are so low, even if they were an immoral jerk.

One time - once - I forgot to mark my account online. This happened because I saw an opportunity for a takedown and wasn't thinking about anything except getting it done quickly. I apologize for that. From now on I will make an effort to log into turbo via my other forum account. Note however that this is a purely cosmetic switch, and doesn't change anything at all about what my admin account -could- do. In other words, it won't change what you guys claim about me, it will just add a minor annoyance to my playing. But that's pretty much the goal, right?

When I dropped land, my rationale was that it would be more spread out and therefore a little harder to scrape up because it would be on more targets. To my recollection I didn't even attack the land farm before doing it, so I don't know how many attacks were left on it. I'm guessing more than 0. You of course see reasoned attempts to lock land away from you because you don't like me - which is fine, I just wish you guys were better able to distinguish between your dislike and actual reality.

If I had logged in and clanned the land farm, the thread would be about me cheating by using admin powers while playing instead of a thread about cheating by -not- using admin powers while playing. That's how these things go with you guys. The reason nobody actually listens to you is because you are literally imagining things and everyone but you can see it clearly.

[windhound]

Hardy typical.
I like to think of myself as reasonably impartial, but I'm becoming less so with each Sevzpost complaining about Shadow.
Sevz has been beating the "Shadow is a cheater" drum without anything solid for a while now, its getting old.  I've asked for substantiation every single time and I get nothing.
This thread is slightly better than his normal fare, but its not cheating.

As far as unequal treatment, in all seriousness when was the last time someone was disabled ingame for rule breaking (other than the auto-disable for multis).  I can count several incidents where I should have but didn't.  This includes many over-the-line ingame messages (which are, btw, permanently logged --  'delete' is just a 'hide').
Past admins were much more hamfisted with the Disable button, for better or worse.

All this doesn't change the fact that if you think someone is cheating you go to the admins first, even and especially if you think its another admin.  If you don't get a satisfactory response then make a topic about it and expose the corruption.  By all means.

As is, this is just more Sevz whining about how much he doesn't like Shadow.
Given the fact that we haven't permabanned Sevz and deleted all his posts criticizing the administration yet, I think we're doin' alright.