This is cool

[Shores of Tripoli]

 Yes, many people who know me well (and many who don't) would concur with the opinion that I am crazy.

[Peace Alliance]

But what specifically makes you fear it? What kind of threat is it that requires killing machines? Why have you chosen this path over another, that's what I'm asking.

[Shores of Tripoli]

But what specifically makes you fear it? What kind of threat is it that requires killing machines? Why have you chosen this path over another, that's what I'm asking.

there has been such threats in the past, to our country and to countless others. I've already explained why the Marine Corps appeals to me yet you continue to ask me why I chose such a path. Do my answers not satisfy you? Maybe you too should just accept the notion that I'm crazy.

[Gen. Volkov]

When you watch things like "Pacific," what is it specifically that is appealing to you? The part I don't get is how you overcome your fears and reservations for this. Why are you willing to give up your future to join a team of killers?

Peace, as a member of a family with a long and distinguished record of service in my nations military, I object most strongly to your reference to soldiers, be they marines or otherwise, as "killers". They are soldiers, not killers. Shores of Tripoli is clearly nuts, and has no real understanding of what it means to be a Marine.

[Pippin]

its funny how someone comes along with a real passion and all he hears is "your nuts" and general comments like that and its from older members

[Genevieve]

lol. All he hears? This thread is 8 pages long and most of it was talk about a coup and which states have the freest gun control.

[Ungatt Trunn II]

I am sorry if those things harm your liberal sensibilities.

~sedition again~

[Genevieve]

I was just saying that pippin's post was dumb.

[Peace Alliance]

@Volkov: he spent the first half of the topic talking about how the marines are dogs from hell unleashed to kill. I am asking him why he would want to join a group like that. i recognize the difference between that and the actual marines (who kill people all the time, btw, you just feel good about it because its been vaguely justified politically).

@Ungatt: the word liberal is used liberally. But the fact that you are just going to use it as an insult for anyone who wants gun control tells me that you are not willing to reason, or even challenge your own world view with a different perspective. BTW, how's glen becks new show, do you like it as much as when he was still sane enough for Fox?

@Tripoli: you're just a kid. i remember telling people i was crazy just because i hadnt matured enough to deeply challenge my decisions. I want to (actually i just want you to) examjne what makes you want to go off and join a team of killing dogs from hell. There are tons of tiny little things that influence the decisions you make. Its not because you're crazy, it's because something is influencing you.

[Rakefur]

I want to (actually i just want you to) examjne what makes you want to go off and join a team of killing dogs from hell.

You must be a pacifist. I would join myself if I wasn't too lazy.

[Shadow]

tells me that you are not willing to reason, or even challenge your own world view with a different perspective.

This is ironic

@Tripoli: you're just a kid. i remember telling people i was crazy just because i hadnt matured enough to deeply challenge my decisions. I want to (actually i just want you to) examjne what makes you want to go off and join a team of killing dogs from hell. There are tons of tiny little things that influence the decisions you make. Its not because you're crazy, it's because something is influencing you.

You sure he's "just a kid"? He said he was enlisting within the next year and has a jeep. He probably isn't much younger than us...

[Ashyra Nightwing]

Does all of your information on the Marines come from call of duty/movies and stuff?


I was always under the impression that the army was about protecting and defending ones country rather than endless killing - obviously killing may sometimes have to be part of the job, but it's something to be avoided unless necessary. You seem to be specifically into the killing aspect. I find that a bit odd.

[Peace Alliance]

Pacifist, or just somebody who wants people to grow up into responsible, helpful citizens of the world. I want my fellow earthlings to solve their problems intelligently, and yes peacefully. Killing people is easy. Turning a tiny percentage of the poorest people in the Amerian population into to well armed soldiers is a crude and lazy way to solve your problems. It's also unrealistec. It turns out every simplified, clear-cut war you percieve is actually complicated, nuanced, and detailed. And this is not disrespect toward those soldes, nor tripoli. i know they do something challenging, and sacrifice themselves for your safety.  But sacrifice some of your time to challenge why we send men and women to die.

@Shadow: Oops, you have a lil bit of ignorance showin'. Ya, right there on your lip - no the other side... Actually nvm, maybe you won't find it. If you genuinely believe that being Christian somehow means I am never challenging my world view then you are more interested in attacking my beliefs then you are in understanding who I am. It kind of hurts my feelings actually... i try not to take it pesonally, because it seems to me that as soon as somebody unappolagetically claims to  e Christian, you size them up for a nice little box they can fit in. Ya can't box me in man, I'm unpredictable!!

[Shadow]

I don't believe your being Christian has anything to do with that Peace, I am basing that on your argument style here on forums. But I guess that was a little mean =/

[Shores of Tripoli]

@everybody, obviously I don't have an understanding of what it's like to be a Marine. I'm not one. It's a difficult thing to understand, and even more difficult to explain. You have all been asking me to explain something that I don't fully understand, obviously I'm going to struggle.

@Peace, yea I am a kid but I'm enlisting in November. Maybe in a year or 2 I could explain that to you.