Intentional maxxing anyone?

[Sharptooh]

I don't know what the intentions where here so I won't presume, all I know is it made my run a lot harder than it needed to be . . . would have made my run harder if I'd been able to break him . . .

Date/Time    Attacker    Defender    Outcome
Sun, 18 Dec 2011 08:56:50 -0700    Revelation (#26)
Clan: Death    Sevz (#8)
Clan:    Standard Attack
Defense Held
Sun, 18 Dec 2011 08:53:23 -0700    Revelation (#26)
Clan: Death    Sevz (#8)
Clan:    Naval Assault
Defense Held
Sun, 18 Dec 2011 08:53:17 -0700    Revelation (#26)
Clan: Death    Sevz (#8)
Clan:    Frontal Assault
Defense Held
Sun, 18 Dec 2011 08:37:25 -0700    Aarak (#18)
Clan:    Sevz (#8)
Clan:    Frontal Assault
Defense Held
Sun, 18 Dec 2011 08:37:23 -0700    Aarak (#18)
Clan:    Sevz (#8)
Clan:    Frontal Assault
Defense Held
Sun, 18 Dec 2011 08:37:21 -0700    Aarak (#18)
Clan:    Sevz (#8)
Clan:    Frontal Assault
Defense Held
Sun, 18 Dec 2011 08:37:18 -0700    Aarak (#18)
Clan:    Sevz (#8)
Clan:    Frontal Assault
Defense Held
Sun, 18 Dec 2011 08:37:14 -0700    Aarak (#18)
Clan:    Sevz (#8)
Clan:    Frontal Assault
Defense Held
Sun, 18 Dec 2011 08:37:11 -0700    Aarak (#18)
Clan:    Sevz (#8)
Clan:    Frontal Assault
Defense Held
Sun, 18 Dec 2011 08:37:08 -0700    Aarak (#18)
Clan:    Sevz (#8)
Clan:    Frontal Assault
Defense Held
Sun, 18 Dec 2011 08:33:40 -0700    Aarak (#18)
Clan:    Sevz (#8)
Clan:    Guerilla Strike
Defense Held
Sun, 18 Dec 2011 08:33:35 -0700    Aarak (#18)
Clan:    Sevz (#8)
Clan:    Guerilla Strike
Defense Held
Sun, 18 Dec 2011 08:32:12 -0700    Aarak (#18)
Clan:    Sevz (#8)
Clan:    Frontal Assault
Defense Held
Sun, 18 Dec 2011 08:32:06 -0700    Aarak (#18)
Clan:    Sevz (#8)
Clan:    Standard Attack
Defense Held

9 attacks left on an unclanned Sevah with 130k land . . .

[Sevah]

How about shush for a second cos you failed the last 2

The aim of the game is to be tough. It's the take over.

WOOT WOOT. HAHAHHA

[Sharptooh]

How about shush for a second cos you failed the last 2

Lots of people were probably trying the same as me, that's why I didn't presume :P

Although Aarak did a few too many failed attacks for my liking; I think he's new though.

And unless you fed me wrong numbers, or have a ton of towers, I fail to see how I didn't break you (I'm guessing a mixture of former and latter here)

What was this land bug you were twittering on about btw?

[Sevah]

I gave you accurate information but didn't mention the 90k towers.

If you get onlined while grabbing land sometimes there's a discrepancy leaving phantom acres. It was about 4.5k

[Sharptooh]

I gave you accurate information but didn't mention the 90k towers.

Thanks for disclosing that info Sevah :P

Didn't know about the whole land onlining bug thing.

[Sevah]

You owe Aarak an apology. You accused him of deliberately filling my hitlimit. Take it back Sharpy.

[Shadow]

It's a perfectly reasonable question, I'm a little curious as to why it happened myself.

[Sevah]

the landbug? I've seen it on heaps of other servers. It happens when 2 people load an attack at the same time. I think I was attacking Volkov while Bloodwake was attacking me.

The name of the topic implies a deliberate act, Sharpy's seeking confirmation

[windhound]

Eh, Sevz, accusing someone of doing something they did is reasonable

He may have been hoping to break you by the 11th time, but he knew he was eating up the hitlimit

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The online attacking bug has been around for a while Sharptooth, if you're curious it appears to happen when database calls cross - so really, as said, when people online attack.  This is fixable by redoing how the game calculates free land (it currently stores it as its own entry (bleh)) but as online attacks are moderately rare its lower on the todo list.

[Sevah]

11 attacks can mean 2 things, either persistence or it's deliberate. Facts are it was persistence this time and Aarak burnt himself trying to break me only to get accused of cheating. His motives questioned

[Sharptooh]

Can you please stop this Sevah? I posted:

I don't know what the intentions where here so I won't presume

I acknowledge Aarak is a newer player and I doubt very much (I even bolded that bit for you Sevah) that he did this with the intentions that you imply.

Same with Revelation, failing three attacks with different troop types is perfectly reasonable.

If anything Sevah this topic is to educate newer players as to why what Aarak did was against the rules, regardless of intentions.

Thanks for the explanation by the way Windy :) surpirsed I hadn't heard about this before, admittedly I probably forgot!

[Shadow]

We need to work out a system whereby this sort of thing can't happen, since it is always tricky to decide when cheating actually happened. The suggestion has come up in the past to stop counting failed attacks after the first one. Of course, this opens things up for troop suicides, but from what I have seen, these are really not that effective, and it would not be hard to add desertions for repeated failures to mitigate that.

[Sharptooh]

Sounds like a good idea to me :) anything that can stop situations like this again in the future would be great.

[Shadow]

Sigh. It's just a pain to have to code out peoples' behavior when there are so many better ways to spend coding time.

[Sevah]

Simple as, if a person fails 4 attacks they can't attack that same person for 12hours.