Suicides

[Shadow]

So: after that round of suicides, what do you all think of the current balance? Those who were on the receiving end, too powerful? Good balance?

I think we are closer to a good balance than we have been before. And I agree with Holby that a limit of a factor of 20 in attackable net range even when at war is good for leader suicides so that people with barely any net have a harder time taking down people much bigger than themselves. This will force people to use troops to take down properly set up emps.

[Etendue]

And I agree with Holby that a limit of a factor of 20 in attackable net range even when at war is good for leader suicides so that people with barely any net have a harder time taking down people much bigger than themselves. This will force people to use troops to take down properly set up emps.

Hmmnnn... That's a good idea. Can't believe we didn't have it sooner. So there still is no restriction on murders/poisons? Last storehouse round, I transferred all my net to Wolf Bite after distribution, then spammed several hundred poisons/murders in one or two days. I personally consider that very cheap, as my enemies couldn't even take a turn due to their troops, and I was destroying everybody I could get my hands on.

[Firetooth]

Eh, I think losses were way to great on my side. As a stoat with around 7mil leaders, I was killing around the same as sharp on comparatively less (millions) bit losing like 4* more.

[Shadow]

when we suicided you on turbo it took more than 100 shots to get you into murder range. You cannot possibly complain that 100 shots does not favour the defender.

[Firetooth]

Huh? I was talking about suiciding Neo. I agree it greatly favours the defender...perhaps too much.

[Shadow]

Oh, right.

Well, the trick is to have lots of leaders, but not too many. If you have a ton more than you need to pass the threshold for suicides, then you are going to lose a ton more than necessary.

You only need enough leaders to make sure you aren't getting capped. This means, basically, that you have at least 1/15 of their leaders, but should probably suicide with about 1/5 of their leaders to make sure you dont get capped much by random rolls.

[Neobaron]

You and sharpy killed 9 million leaders Firetooth. Granted you didn't break or espy, but that has more to do with how ratio works than anything.

Suicides are fine as they are.

[Firetooth]

What?

How many did you begin with Neo?

Oh, right.

Well, the trick is to have lots of leaders, but not too many. If you have a ton more than you need to pass the threshold for suicides, then you are going to lose a ton more than necessary.

You only need enough leaders to make sure you aren't getting capped. This means, basically, that you have at least 1/15 of their leaders, but should probably suicide with about 1/5 of their leaders to make sure you dont get capped much by random rolls.

Cool, thanks.

[Neobaron]

A lot.

I'm not going to tell you. :P

I will give you a hint though; when I passed off, my ratio was still in the 300s.

[Firetooth]

It's not like it matters now you ran, jerk :(

Oh well, now I'll try some calculator stuff