Account deletion

Shadow · April 12, 2011, 06:34:03 AM

I didn't ask him to. Ask my brother about it if you want details there. Far as I know, he asked a friend to sign up to pass information along, then deleted when he realized what I said in the first post, but I am assuming, as I have not had a chance to speak to him since I deleted.

EDIT: just realized that Neo compared me to a Republican. Bite me, Neo :-*

The Purple Dragon · April 12, 2011, 01:59:49 PM

Allow me to end any further speculation in the matter...

The person that joined was my friend, he asked me what I was playing when I didn't respond one day and I introduced him to RWL. Our intention was to get him into the game to actually play the game, not necessarily as an ally.. Kyle and I are brothers but sometimes we find ourselves on different sides and we will play against each other without giving the other an unnecessary advantage.

It was simple chance that he happened to be put into the Corsair clan, so it is impossible to say that he joined solely for the purpose of spying on the Corsairs.. It is common knowledge that we Briggs' don't like Sevz, but it is also evident that we won't resort to under-handed methods to beat him, even if they aren't technically against the rules.

It is not like I asked a friend to join just so that he can send me info of other clans, in fact he sent me the info of his own accord. At first I was tempted to use it to gain an advantage, but a message from Shael told me that such a course of action would be frowned upon, but not against the rules. Kyle and I did not have to delete our accounts due to the fact that everything done was perfectly legal, and I honestly thing that espionage is an important key to successful warfare. Getting unfair advantages is part of real warfare, but Kyle and I both chose the high road and deleted so that we wouldn't be "Frowned upon".

I also know that Sevz and a few others feel that we deleted because we didn't want to face losing to Rapscallion. Think what you want, but honestly that's just ignorantly cocky.

The "spy" is a good friend, and will be hear to learn the game and actually play... he is legitimately interested in the game so the accusation of "multi-accounting" just doesn't stick.

On a lighter note, I saw that there is a player named Blue Eyes playing... any relation to Orcrist? He was probably one of the funnest players to work with besides Firetooth and Wolf.

Shael thanks for the offer to be back in Corsair, but I don't think I will rejoin this round.

Have a good round guys, best of luck to everyone.

-Purple Dragons

Shadow · April 12, 2011, 02:16:45 PM

Ah, guess I misunderstood as well, then. I thought he joined to spy, but if he didn't, then there was not even reason for me to delete. ^_^

Meh. Best to just end it lol.

The Lady Shael · April 12, 2011, 03:02:07 PM

The red flag was when not 10 minutes after the player joined, they started copying and pasting the enemy's clan forum posts and storehouse stats and sending them out. I don't have a problem with espionage and moles, but what I just mentioned is exploiting the theme of forced clans and just isn't right.

Either way, what's done is done. No one's getting in trouble and we're moving on.

Holby · April 12, 2011, 05:26:50 PM

Quote from: Shadow on April 12, 2011, 02:16:45 PM
Ah, guess I misunderstood as well, then. I thought he joined to spy, but if he didn't, then there was not even reason for me to delete. ^_^

Meh. Best to just end it lol.

lol. You're silly.

To an outsider, it seems like an incredibly melodramatic response.

You had no control over this person, they weren't breaking the rules... So why feel guilty about it?

Taking out any spying element kinda makes the game less fun. Clans are supposed to have "bad eggs", and difficult situations to work through. Not clan leaders that delete at the first sign of trouble.

It is no less an unfair advantage than you and your brother working together from different clans, in positions where you can manipulate clan relations and tactics.

It is all a bit sanitised for my liking.

Neobaron · April 12, 2011, 06:23:38 PM

There's a difference between information gathering and having your bro at school make an account intended for nothing more than lifting information though Holby.

In other words, get your information through 'legitimate' illegitimate channels. :P

Shadow · April 12, 2011, 07:17:38 PM

Again Neo, I didn't ask for it to happen. I logged in to find the info in my inbox. The reason I feel guilty is because I asked for more before thinking it through.

My brother and I live more than 1200km apart. I don't see how our relation is any different than my relation with anyone else in this game - our methods of communication are the same.

Neobaron · April 12, 2011, 07:32:43 PM

I was speaking in hypothetical terms. When I say "bro" it's used as is the vernacular.

Like when the idiots who wear plaid shorts and shirts that are one size too small walk up to one another and say "whats UP bro?"

Gen. Volkov · April 13, 2011, 12:48:20 AM

QuoteI didn't ask him to. Ask my brother about it if you want details there. Far as I know, he asked a friend to sign up to pass information along, then deleted when he realized what I said in the first post, but I am assuming, as I have not had a chance to speak to him since I deleted.

Alright then.

QuoteIt was simple chance that he happened to be put into the Corsair clan, so it is impossible to say that he joined solely for the purpose of spying on the Corsairs.. It is common knowledge that we Briggs' don't like Sevz, but it is also evident that we won't resort to under-handed methods to beat him, even if they aren't technically against the rules.

I think you mean Rapscallion...

Sevah · April 15, 2011, 04:02:31 AM

HAHAHHAHA
Why does it matter if we know what everyone else has in the storehouse?

I'll post it proudly on the forums
Empire Status Networth Contributed % of Storehouse
7 Nation Army (#5) Active $735,310,801 6%
Land farm KILLER (#10) Active $186,274,300 1.5%
The Hounds of Ulster (#18) Active $1,553,971,397 12.7%
Castle (#20) Active $3,089,444,502 25.3%
TheAuthor (#59) Active $10,426,725 0.1%
Bandannas (#21) Active $4,159,333 0%
Sinking Shark (#28) Vacation $1,331,534,674 10.9%
Yellow Eyes (#31) Active $132,954,030 1.1%
Simplicity (#38) Active $286,155,136 2.3%
Darhris Dasri (#34) Vacation $9,219,103 0.1%
wolf bite (bata) (#43) Active $270,697,218 2.2%
Etendue (#46) Active $260,656,429 2.1%
Kyle! (#51) Active $862,028,485 7%
blue eyes (#60) Active $125,707 0%
Steelclaw (#62) Protection $14,400 0%

Sevah · April 15, 2011, 04:07:54 AM

I never said nothing o.O didn't even notice you both delete til someone said something in a private message. I had respect for PD. Sorry to see you both leave.

Vargarth · April 15, 2011, 09:34:40 AM

Hmmm Pretty good numbers Sevah...

Gen. Volkov · April 16, 2011, 02:03:15 AM

Can I please kick Sevah out of my clan? Pretty please, with a cherry on top?

Holby · April 16, 2011, 06:11:41 AM

I was going to ignore this, but I got bored...

Quote from: The Purple Dragon on April 12, 2011, 01:59:49 PM
Allow me to end any further speculation in the matter...

The person that joined was my friend, he asked me what I was playing when I didn't respond one day and I introduced him to RWL. Our intention was to get him into the game to actually play the game, not necessarily as an ally.. Kyle and I are brothers but sometimes we find ourselves on different sides and we will play against each other without giving the other an unnecessary advantage.

It was simple chance that he happened to be put into the Corsair clan, so it is impossible to say that he joined solely for the purpose of spying on the Corsairs.. It is common knowledge that we Briggs' don't like Sevz, but it is also evident that we won't resort to under-handed methods to beat him, even if they aren't technically against the rules.

It is not like I asked a friend to join just so that he can send me info of other clans, in fact he sent me the info of his own accord. At first I was tempted to use it to gain an advantage, but a message from Shael told me that such a course of action would be frowned upon, but not against the rules. Kyle and I did not have to delete our accounts due to the fact that everything done was perfectly legal, and I honestly thing that espionage is an important key to successful warfare. Getting unfair advantages is part of real warfare, but Kyle and I both chose the high road and deleted so that we wouldn't be "Frowned upon".

I also know that Sevz and a few others feel that we deleted because we didn't want to face losing to Rapscallion. Think what you want, but honestly that's just ignorantly cocky.

The "spy" is a good friend, and will be hear to learn the game and actually play... he is legitimately interested in the game so the accusation of "multi-accounting" just doesn't stick.

-Purple Dragons

I'm pretty sure most of this isn't true.

QuoteKyle and I are brothers but sometimes we find ourselves on different sides and we will play against each other without giving the other an unnecessary advantage.

Pleeease, I know you and Kyle were working together.

Quote
It is not like I asked a friend to join just so that he can send me info of other clans, in fact he sent me the info of his own accord. At first I was tempted to use it to gain an advantage, but a message from Shael told me that such a course of action would be frowned upon, but not against the rules. Kyle and I did not have to delete our accounts due to the fact that everything done was perfectly legal, and I honestly thing that espionage is an important key to successful warfare. Getting unfair advantages is part of real warfare, but Kyle and I both chose the high road and deleted so that we wouldn't be "Frowned upon".

You're saying he sent you information without you even suggesting it? He's a completely new player, who isn't interested in using turns or understanding the game, but gaining information? What nonsense.

Even if it were true, all you had to do was ignore it. At worst, ask him not to distribute the info, because it might make you look bad. But you didn't- because you asked him for it in the first place.

And you deleted, because you felt guilty.

This is all bunkum, and Kyle knows it:

Quote from: Shadow on April 12, 2011, 02:16:45 PMAh, guess I misunderstood as well, then. I thought he joined to spy, but if he didn't, then there was not even reason for me to delete. ^_^

I don't have a problem at all with your methods, PD, but with the fact you're lying about it now.

Shadow · April 16, 2011, 08:54:30 AM

Holby, you are asking:

"If you weren't a mod, would you have deleted? Is this not all just to preserve your (self-)image?"

The answer now is yes, I would have deleted. The topic is here mostly to preserve my image, but the deletion would have happened regardless. The answer a year ago would have been no, I would not have deleted, I would just have defended myself by saying that no rules were broken.

Reading back this topic though, I realize that it is rather silly that I even cared this much. RWL is far too ingrained in my life now.