Just the numbers

Neobaron · April 13, 2011, 12:49:52 PM

Cool, thanks.

Juska · April 18, 2011, 04:02:08 PM

1, 10, 100. Almost positive there are none on the 5's.

Shadow · April 18, 2011, 04:56:37 PM

There are definitely more than three, but my placement could be off. The important point is that they are all under 100m.

Neobaron · April 18, 2011, 09:37:00 PM

I'm curious -

Why is this tax in place?

Most players easily achieve nets in excess of 100 million within a few runs, and any penalties on lower players seem mostly irrelevant.

Wouldn't it make better sense for the limits to be substantially higher?

It seems this type of thing would have been originally implemented to punish success... there's no point in punishing the effort to get there.

Or is this something that can't be modified?

The Lady Shael · April 18, 2011, 10:41:15 PM

Oh it can be modified....I think Retto put it there "to punish success", back when no one thought it was possible to get much farther than 100 million net. We've just never updated it.

Neobaron · April 18, 2011, 10:55:38 PM

I'm sorry if the term isn't exactly a desirable thing to think about... I can honestly think of no other way to phrase it.

<3 :D

Neobaron · April 28, 2011, 05:16:52 PM

How exactly do leaders work?

I understand that 175 or bust is pretty much a given, but why?

How does the ratio play into success/fail chances for missions, or missions against other players?

Ashyra Nightwing · April 28, 2011, 05:34:09 PM

Quote from: Neobaron on April 28, 2011, 05:16:52 PM

How does the ratio play into success/fail chances for missions, or missions against other players?

Just asked the same thing in the shoutbox. Someone please tell!

Shadow · April 28, 2011, 07:34:08 PM

For offensive missions:

attack ratio: 2*(attacker leaders) / (attacker land + defender land)

defense ratio: defender leaders / defender land

if your attack ratio exceeds their defense ratio by the specified amount for that mission which I don't recall for any of the missions then the mission succeeds.

Neobaron · April 28, 2011, 08:16:10 PM

Is it land or huts that are considered? Because yesterday I tried to steal from lucy who was on 100k land, while I had a >200 ratio and about 2 million more leaders than she did... It didn't make a great deal of sense.

Using the numbers I have from espys and my own stats, my attack ratio came to ~133.3 and her defense ratio was ~60.

Or is the steal threshold just that high?

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What about non-offensive missions like raise defenses and heal?

Do they also have a certain threshold that must be surpassed in order to be successful?

Shadow · April 28, 2011, 09:14:00 PM

Steal threshold is 2.2. Your advantage was just on the line, so maybe your approximations are off by a few %. There might also be a 5% defense ratio bonus that I am forgetting about.

Neobaron · April 28, 2011, 09:15:16 PM

Yeah I didn't take into account the racial bonuses, and my numbers were all rounded. Where is the 5% coming from? Raised D?

That is good to know though for the future, thanks.

Shadow · April 28, 2011, 09:21:24 PM

I think the defense ratio might actually me 1.05*leaders/land. Will have to verify in the code next change I get. When doing leader math, I always add 10% to the defender anyway to give a little margin for error.

Non offensive mission just require a certain leader/land ratio in the caster to succeed.

Neobaron · May 02, 2011, 07:26:56 PM

Resource consumption per troop type?

I know rats nom more of your food, and boats use a lot of your money, but what are the specifics?

Kilkenne · May 02, 2011, 07:34:19 PM

please to be telling me, with a 0% multiplier, how many of each troop type is produced from 1 barracks so that I might do math