Just the numbers

[Neobaron]

/wave

I was wondering if theres a spreadsheet out there somewhere that just has the math for the game without pesky words?

O/D ratios, % net calculations, and all that.

I looked through the game guide, but didn't find anything definitive.

I would think some of the more advanced players would have something like this lying around and the game has changed so much that I can only create generalized theories based on the outcomes i've seen.

[Shadow]

I have it, but it's in my head ^_^

I can answer specific questions you have, though.

[Neobaron]

O/D ratios for all of the troop types

% value of network for food, money, each troop type, land

Defense contributions from towers and how that compares to troop types. (Is it a hard counter for everything, or just a mostly cosmetic contribution, for example)

For starters.

It would really be usefull to have a map/index for all the numbers.

[Juska]

All the networth calculations are on the networth make-up page.

1 Tower = 500 Def Points

Technically a tower is equal to 500 rats, 83.3 weasels, 166.7 stoats, and 100 skiffs at the same time.

Or just 83.3 weasels.... depending if your enemy is going to standard you or not.....

Most things are easy to figure out. But yeah a comprehensive number guide could be useful.....

Edit: Wrong troops numbers hehe

[Shadow]

troop - OP - DP
rat - 2 - 1
weasel - 3 - 5
stoat - 5 - 3
skiff - 6 - 8

resource - net per
money - 0.0004
troops - base merc buy price for the troop / base merc buy price for rat (see networth makeup link in army status)


tower DP: 500*(rats/(100*towers+1))

[Neobaron]

All the networth calculations are on the networth make-up page.

I just found that. Is it new?

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Tower strength is based on rats?

[Shadow]

towers require 100 rats per tower to have full effect

networth breakdown has been there for... as long as I can remember ^_^ which granted is not that long

juska, your troop numbers are off a bit ^_^

[Juska]

I gameplay tested towers and rats don't have any effect Shadow....did you recheck the code?

6/8 is right for skiffs, are you sure weasels are 3/5?

[Shadow]

Shael and I fixed the tower DP bug, rats have an effect now.

I just checked weasels, they are 3-5

[Neobaron]

Why do you guys always imply weasels bypass standard calculations for defense? Are they special?

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Why do I need rats for towers to be effective? Can I not put a weasel in the tower too?

I can understand boats in towers but...

[Juska]

Yeah, weasels are 3/5.

You changed towers, ok.

[Juska]

Why do you guys always imply weasels bypass standard calculations for defense? Are they special?

Huh?

Why do I need rats for towers to be effective? Can I not put a weasel in the tower too?

The way the game was originally set up only the "rat" type was a individual unit.

Weasels are types of siege machines
Stoats are flying things
Skiffs are boats.....

[Neobaron]

Or just 83.3 weasels.... depending if your enemy is going to standard you or not.....

I see comments like this pretty often. Are weasels calculated first?

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The way the game was originally set up only the "rat" type was a individual unit.

Weasels are types of siege machines
Stoats are flying things
Skiffs are boats.....

Makes sense now, thanks! :D

[Juska]

No, its because:

A tower provides 500 def points, no matter what attack is used.

If you use bombardment, they give 500 def points (so that's like having 100 weasels)

If you use frontal, they give 500 def points there too (so that's like having 166.67 stoats)

But if someone standard attacks you, you still only get 500 def points. Not 2000.

So, if your just trying to defend from standards you might as well just get 100 weasels, because they'll do the same job.....

[Neobaron]

Got it. Thanks again.

<3 Juska