PA is suspicious

Started by Sevz, March 22, 2010, 12:44:29 AM

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Alazar is Back

I do kinda have to agree with peace on this one. But at the same time i know how competitive he gets and he might have "overlooked" the bug, hoping noone noticed it. The same thing was happening to me today except not to that extent. He had very very few stoats, I had alot with full health and I would fail at about 55% health..so whatever you did before you were killed it happened again. So to be honest I don't know what your intent is.
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I just gotta ask, what significance did that land bug have a few years ago, peace? You snuck around and abused that city bug and had like 1m invisible land, rofl.
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Quote from: Alazar is Back on March 25, 2010, 11:48:17 AM
I do kinda have to agree with peace on this one. But at the same time i know how competitive he gets and he might have "overlooked" the bug, hoping noone noticed it. The same thing was happening to me today except not to that extent. He had very very few stoats, I had alot with full health and I would fail at about 55% health..so whatever you did before you were killed it happened again. So to be honest I don't know what your intent is.
you're saying that happened when attacking me? Because I there were no failed attacks against me today.

Sevz

i don't intend to crucify an innocent person. There's been many things that i've seen as suspicious and not said anything about.

With all the experience i've had at all the servers i've played, these fine details stand out very clearly.


1) The misleading Race guide.
2) The City bugs
3) Mercs and market
4) Double Turns
5) ghost land for invincibility
Quote from: windhound on March 31, 2012, 05:10:16 PM
Coding out holes in the game is the best way to do things. 
Relying an the admins to patrol is a) time consuming for the admins in question b) unreliable c) only invites conflict
There is no conflict or "I didn't know any better!" excuses with a coded in rule.

windhound

Thanks for the list Sevz, here's a breakdown


1) The misleading Race guide.
Had always been like that, I believe the original promi code came like that
When you offered to help me fix it, I did.

2) The City bugs
Cities have, unfortunately, never worked right.  Ever.  Always something wrong with them, be it just readout bugs, name glitches, whatever.  You could view that as malicious, sure.  But its mostly code that was not thoroughly tested before being implemented.

3) Mercs and market
Eh?  Not really aware of any issues here. 

4) Double Turns
The game was originally written for 1 turn every x amount of time, 2 turns when releasing stored.
When turbo was made its turn rate allowed for an overflow condition. 
It was corrected when brought to our attention. 

5) ghost land for invincibility
This is due to the stupid way (imo) this game deals with its land.  You have you buildings, total land, -and- free land.  The 'extra' land shows up, I believe, when people are online attacking.  The game goes to make changes in the database and queries get meshed.  The 'magic button' an admin presses to fix this just recalculates 'free land' based on total and building structures.
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Sevz

Thank you very much for your time Windy. This place needs repairs immediately. Best of luck administrators.
Quote from: windhound on March 31, 2012, 05:10:16 PM
Coding out holes in the game is the best way to do things. 
Relying an the admins to patrol is a) time consuming for the admins in question b) unreliable c) only invites conflict
There is no conflict or "I didn't know any better!" excuses with a coded in rule.

Alazar is Back

Quote from: Peace Alliance on March 26, 2010, 12:15:25 AM
Quote from: Alazar is Back on March 25, 2010, 11:48:17 AM
I do kinda have to agree with peace on this one. But at the same time i know how competitive he gets and he might have "overlooked" the bug, hoping noone noticed it. The same thing was happening to me today except not to that extent. He had very very few stoats, I had alot with full health and I would fail at about 55% health..so whatever you did before you were killed it happened again. So to be honest I don't know what your intent is.
you're saying that happened when attacking me? Because I there were no failed attacks against me today.

Thats because when you replied it was a day later :P look at our time stamps dude. I am not brash enough to say you are cheating, but for some odd reason some suspicious bugs show up around you, and not others. I trust you because logically it makes no sense for you to try and cheat UNLESS you thought for sure noone would notice or something.
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Shadow

Lol

I can't believe there are people seriously accusing Peace of abusing a bug that has no known trigger. Either you are trying to piss him off or you are just parroting Sevs. Either way, stop it. Peace isn't cheating.
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Btw, the double turn rate isn't fixed.
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Sure it is. 
It just hasn't been sync'd to all the turbo round files yet...  I guess including this one
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Wolf Snare

you didnt answer me peace. ^_^



okay, so I'm pretty much just antagonizing him..
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1. Beast Mode (#7)

Alazar is Back

Quote from: Shadow on March 27, 2010, 01:22:31 PM
Lol

I can't believe there are people seriously accusing Peace of abusing a bug that has no known trigger. Either you are trying to piss him off or you are just parroting Sevs. Either way, stop it. Peace isn't cheating.

I will start heeding your advice when you quit putting words in my mouth. I don't see a whole lot of motives for him to be cheating, but he is a competitive person. And you never know what a person will do to win a stupid game.
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Sevz

Does Peace Alliance swear on his position that he isn't cheating?


I have an experienced eye at this game. I'm not saying that he's cheating. I'm saying that the possibility is open.

I will take his word for it

Quote PA
exploitation requires intent. I've been at this game a long time, I run the entire website, why would I bug a measly turbo account so it doesn't get killed? If i was gonna cheat I'd do a heck of a better job of it.
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Your negligence doesn't do you any favors bro.
Quote from: windhound on March 31, 2012, 05:10:16 PM
Coding out holes in the game is the best way to do things. 
Relying an the admins to patrol is a) time consuming for the admins in question b) unreliable c) only invites conflict
There is no conflict or "I didn't know any better!" excuses with a coded in rule.

Peace Alliance

I am guilty of neither cheating, nor neglecting. You are guilty of being a pest, unworthy of us all.