Game Change - Aid 3X max to clanmates

Peace Alliance · September 24, 2009, 11:13:33 PM

October will have a game change for both servers. There will be a new limitation to aid. You will not be able to send aid to clanmates who are more then 3 times your size.

I'm telling you now because it will have an effect on many clan playing styles and strategies.

Shadow · September 25, 2009, 08:47:16 AM

\\good

Firetooth · September 25, 2009, 02:33:26 PM

For the better in my opinion, will take some time for me to adapt I guess, but team indy is still very much possible.
Only downside means I won't ever be able to cloak billions of net on clanmates, which I've done twice now. But the balance is needed.
It's so hard to take any of peace's post seriously though, because of his erm, picture.

Holby · September 26, 2009, 04:16:51 AM

This upsets me.

It was never originally 3x to clanmates, I'm almost certain it was 10x. It just got broken to be 3x, and it should have been changed back to 10x. Instead it was made to be unlimited. You SHOULD be able to send more to a clanmate than an unclanned warlord. That's just common sense. It SHOULD NOT be unlimited, but it SHOULD be higher than 3x.

Gen. Volkov · September 26, 2009, 10:50:39 AM

I agree with Holby.

Neobaron · September 27, 2009, 12:09:59 AM

This is a good change.

Hooray for peace alliance.

Peace Alliance · September 27, 2009, 07:36:46 PM

*shrug*, if the limit is over-zealous we'll modify it. I think it's more important to get it in there, these crazy leaps on reg are just crazy. It's like all the clans have a puffed up hero that is too daunted to do anything substantial.

Holby · September 27, 2009, 07:58:08 PM

Quote from: Peace Alliance on September 27, 2009, 07:36:46 PM
*shrug*, if the limit is over-zealous we'll modify it. I think it's more important to get it in there, these crazy leaps on reg are just crazy. It's like all the clans have a puffed up hero that is too daunted to do anything substantial.

I do agree that it does need changing. The current situation is a problem. But let's not throw out the baby with the bathwater.

We know it's overzealous, because it was at 3x for a long time, and clan play was crappy. During League for example, with us all leadering, and only holding troops that we bought from mercs; it was impossible to only send away to one person, because 3x bigger prevented us from moving Net around. We had to send to two or three people. And then it would come out that one person who was 3.6 times higher needed food to send, and the player with all the food couldn't reach.

3x is really really small. We'll just see 95% of Warlords Independent again.

windhound · September 27, 2009, 09:27:27 PM

I'm nearly positive it was 3x to begin with Holbs

I remember 'cause I tried to send Ragefur some aid when I was in DI. I had something like 20 mil net, he had around 100 mil and it didn't go. Just one of the random bits I remember from early on.

Shadow · September 28, 2009, 06:19:05 AM

Yeah that's what he is saying - it was 3x, it was crappy, then it was unlimited, it was crappier, now we should make it higher.

Peace Alliance · September 28, 2009, 01:50:15 PM

There was a whole slew of advancements I put in to improve clan-play. Removing the aid limit isn't the only thing that made clans popular again.

windhound · September 28, 2009, 02:45:22 PM

Quote from: Shadow on September 28, 2009, 06:19:05 AM
Yeah that's what he is saying - it was 3x, it was crappy, then it was unlimited, it was crappier, now we should make it higher.

Quote from: Holby on September 26, 2009, 04:16:51 AM
It was never originally 3x to clanmates, I'm almost certain it was 10x. It just got broken to be 3x, and it should have been changed back to 10x. Instead it was made to be unlimited.

*shrug*
It was never, to my knowledge, 10x. Its either been 3x or unlimited.

I agree with 3x, its enough. If someone is 3x your size they dont need aid from you. It'll hinder sending all the net to one person, but that's about it.

Peace Alliance · September 28, 2009, 10:18:02 PM

Actually, this might increase clan use. I know I'm going to be recruiting more players to Blackfly just so we can hold all our NW.

Holby · September 28, 2009, 10:58:31 PM

Quote from: windhound on September 27, 2009, 09:27:27 PM
I'm nearly positive it was 3x to begin with Holbs

I remember 'cause I tried to send Ragefur some aid when I was in DI. I had something like 20 mil net, he had around 100 mil and it didn't go. Just one of the random bits I remember from early on.

If that's the case, then I stand corrected, and will shut up about the 3x thing. But surely I got the idea from somewhere that it was more than 3x... Any original or DEX codes still lying around that can be checked?

Alazar is Back · September 29, 2009, 12:21:32 AM

I personally think that it should be 5x for clans. I think unlimited is too much even though i like it. and 3x just sucks. What sense does it make to make it the same as unclanned? none.