DELTA vs. Spetsnaz

Ungatt Trunn II · April 10, 2009, 10:00:04 PM

Who would win in a battle; the crazy, harshly trained Spetsnaz, or the well trained and equipped DELTA force?

Also each side has a super-ninja that they could use in any way they like...

Krowdon · April 11, 2009, 09:47:17 AM

I dunno. I guess the Ninjas could kill them both off then the ninjas would win.

Gen. Volkov · April 12, 2009, 03:00:57 AM

The question is irrelevant. The two forces are trained for completely different missions. Delta Force is a hostage rescue unit. They are trained primarily in breaking into a fortified position and rescuing hostages, killing anyone who is holding them hostage, as quickly as possible. Spetsnaz are Russian Special Forces, they do all types of missions. A much better question would be, who would win, a Navy SEAL Team, or a unit of the Spetsnaz. The answer? The SEALs, hands down. The physical portion of their training is only slightly less rough than what Spetsnaz go through, and in all other areas they are better trained. They are also far better equipped and supported.

As for the super-ninjas... a SEAL would take the one the Spetsnaz had out from over a mile away with a sniper rifle. Wouldn't even be a factor. Besides, SEALs are at least as stealthy and badass as any ninja who ever lived. If the ninja wasn't taken out early on, he'd probably get captured, as he was sneaking up on one of the SEALs, by that guys buddy, who the ninja never even realized was there.

Ungatt Trunn II · April 12, 2009, 11:01:05 AM

OK, so what if Spetsnaz was holding some really important US hostage (say, the president) so they sent in DELTA?

Also, the super ninja are just in it for the fun....

AND, yea Navy Seals are pretty cool.

Shadow · April 12, 2009, 08:11:28 PM

Quote from: Gen. Volkov on April 12, 2009, 03:00:57 AM
The question is irrelevant. The two forces are trained for completely different missions. Delta Force is a hostage rescue unit. They are trained primarily in breaking into a fortified position and rescuing hostages, killing anyone who is holding them hostage, as quickly as possible. Spetsnaz are Russian Special Forces, they do all types of missions. A much better question would be, who would win, a Navy SEAL Team, or a unit of the Spetsnaz. The answer? The SEALs, hands down. The physical portion of their training is only slightly less rough than what Spetsnaz go through, and in all other areas they are better trained. They are also far better equipped and supported.

As for the super-ninjas... a SEAL would take the one the Spetsnaz had out from over a mile away with a sniper rifle. Wouldn't even be a factor. Besides, SEALs are at least as stealthy and badass as any ninja who ever lived. If the ninja wasn't taken out early on, he'd probably get captured, as he was sneaking up on one of the SEALs, by that guys buddy, who the ninja never even realized was there.

Nationalism is cute

Gen. Volkov · April 12, 2009, 11:51:34 PM

QuoteNationalism is cute

It's not Nationalism, SEALs are just straight up better than Spetsnaz. But Israeli Special Forces are at least as good as SEALs, if not better.

QuoteOK, so what if Spetsnaz was holding some really important US hostage (say, the president) so they sent in DELTA?

In that unlikely situation, I'd give the advantage to the Delta Force, as they would have surprise on their side.

Shadow · April 13, 2009, 12:03:29 AM

I'm just messing volk. But for the record, if the president was a hostage, I doubt that the Russians would be surprised to see Delta lol.

Firetooth · April 13, 2009, 02:37:19 AM

Russia win because their communist, end of. ;)

Ungatt Trunn II · April 13, 2009, 05:45:10 AM

Yes because as history has shown us communism ALWAYS works :D

Firetooth · April 13, 2009, 05:46:58 AM

Quote from: Ungatt Trunn II on April 13, 2009, 05:45:10 AM
Yes because as history has shown us communism ALWAYS works :D

Definetly ;)

Gen. Volkov · April 14, 2009, 10:16:34 PM

QuoteI'm just messing volk. But for the record, if the president was a hostage, I doubt that the Russians would be surprised to see Delta lol.

LOL, right. And yeah, they wouldn't be surprised to see Delta, but they couldn't stay alert and ready to go 24/7, so Delta would still have the element of surprise when they did attack. It always helps to be able to choose the when and how of an engagement with the enemy. That's why ambushes are so effective, even if the possibility is known.

Gorak · April 14, 2009, 11:08:16 PM

JTF2

Ungatt Trunn II · April 15, 2009, 06:17:36 AM

Vs. what?

Gorak · April 15, 2009, 05:47:26 PM

a wet paper bag

Gen. Volkov · April 16, 2009, 05:57:07 PM

The paper bag wins. LOL. Kidding.