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 This is truly my last post:

To D.E.:


I love this game, yet I hate the people, plus I do not have time for this Cr*p.  The same applies to my friend Hannibal.  As well my brother feels no joy in it either.  This will be my last post, yet I want you to know that if you have respect for people here, then fight.  Go to General Discussion, and state that I am gone, therefor Km should leave you alone.  Win the moral war first, then you will get allies.  Do not let Km have the satisfaction of being a brute, yet you must fight!  Not with a mouse, but with a keyboard.  Ask why they are attacking you?  What is the reason?  The clan has new members, and old ones have left, there is no reason for this continued war.  Remember you have two and only two options, victory or slavery!  Nohc chose slavery!  You the people have the power, to chose slavery or freedom!  Make the chose and fight for it!




For Cloud, get rid of the picture of the young boy in body amour, holding the large Phallic object.

 Windhound, I am not a philosophy major, yet I do recognize a contradiction when I see it.  Computer Jockeys (including yourself) were saying that we were unfair.  Now you say that it is okay, and it?s apart of the game?  You sound like a hypocrite, or a fool.  As for Wolfbite, look at my posts again, and see where diplomacy broke down.  I am not mad at dying, rather people calling me a liar.  Nor am I mad at you (or the rest of the Administration), It takes a very strong man to read these posts, I often have to remind myself that I am 19, and not 10.  Plus over coming headaches, when I see ?Sir? and ?Of, (insert pretend place here)?.

   This is not a game, it?s a social club.  I see mental 10 year olds go into a full fantasy and creating overly complicate names.  Are you compensating for a lack of something in your life?  Don?t Worry!  Just add sir in front of your name, and don?t forget to put that pretend place you come from!  Perhaps I would of gotten more respect if I stayed here for 3 years and changed my name to ?Sir Sparticus the third, of moss flower?!?!?

I love history, and I know a lot about strategy.  Not of course this mathematical memorization of what to do in every situation, but strategy in real life.  That?s why I created D.E, because people want to have say in there clan, there thoughts and feelings to be heard and have the power to vote, etc., also lessons from historical battles helped me too.  It is ridiculous I get blamed for this, I am Greek so I?ll break it down.  Democracy, Demo : Greek, meaning people, Cracy : Greek again, meaning power.  Power to the people, not me.  If you hate me, then you hate D.E, and Nohc, and Juska, because they all voted for every action I took.  I was an instrument of the people, not a dictator.

   I loved this game, yet the people here are children.  Nohc told me that he was leaking information to Kilk, because he didn?t want him to be mad.  So What!  It?s a game, not a social club.  I must agree with Hannibal, the only person who understood this was Juska.  I can?t believe the Administration waste there time organizing this ?Teddy Bear Pic Nic?.  

Do not bother replying, I will not return as well.  

P.S.,
I play WW1 games, yet I do not call myself ?Willy von Klugermann, Jasta Veir?, and then ruin the game by adding conflicting 1914 Prussian morality.  I hope this game can get real people, not social rejects.  Seriously, this game is not friendly to new people, rather preexisting relationships, and strict conflicting biblical/draconian laws.

 So you agree he started the war, thankyou.

All moral players, join D.E.

There you the people have the power!

The game is new, I can get back in a week.



Now think, who will ally with some one who was the attacker?  I dunno, I guess you do have a point, I mean all those lan parties you must host with free chocolate milk, must give you an edge with getting people to ally with you.  I guess Democracy, and liberty and freewill are second to that kind of stuff.  



am not a dictator....I am not in that business, I want to help clan members if possible.  We all want to help each other, human beings are like that.  We want to live by each others happiness, not each others miseries.  This clan can be free and beautiful, and Redwall is rich and plentiful and can provide for everyone.  But........we have lost the way, ....the greed of clans has fought it's way into our lives, they trap us with there hate, starves us with there blood shed, and cripple us with there fear.  We are victims of a system that make men torture....to us victims I say:  do not despair, the day of greed is passing, the bitterness of clans that fear the way.  The day of the dictator's will die and the power they took from the people will return to the people....and so long as men die liberty will never perish......  

   Soldiers, don't give your selves to these clans, men who despise you, who enslave you, tired you, regiment your lives.  Clans who TELL YOU, what to do, what think, how to feel.  DON'T GIVE YOUR SELVES TO THESE UNNATURAL CLANS, with there machine minds and machine hearts, you are not machine you are MEN!

   Soldiers don't fight for slavery, fight for liberty!  In our clan, you the people have the power, the power to think, to feel, to live, TO MAKE THIS CLAN FREE AND BEAUTIFUL.  THEN IN THE NAME OF DEMOCRACY, LET US USE THAT POWER, LET US ALL UNITE!  Let us use this power to fight for these things, the things that let us be individuals, that give us security and peace of mind.  By the PROMISE of these things brutes have risen to power.  BUT THEY LIE, they don't fulfill there promises, they never will.  DICTATORS FREE THEM SELVES, BUT THEY ENSLAVE THE PEOPLE!  NOW LET USE FIGHT TO FULFILL THAT PROMISE, to do away with clan barriers and greed, let us fight for a clan of reason, where voting ,and debating are not just words, they are our RIGHT!

                      SOLDIERS, IN THE NAME OF DEMOCRACY, LET US ALL UNITE!   




On a side not, I will not play again.  Hannibal, myself, and Caesar (my brother), have decided to give the clan to Juska.  He is loyal, unlike Nohc, who leaked information to Km.

 
Tue, 23 Nov 2004 16:51:00 -0800From Kilk''s Marauders (#28) (?)
Unfortunately this message is none too pleasant.

I can no longer deny my clan members the land source that is your clan. There is not room enough for us both...

This is no declaration of war, but I must break our alliance.

If you wish to remain allied with me personally (Horde to Horde) I am willing to negotiate those terms.

Regretfully-

~Kilkenne, Emperor of the Northlands


-Hmmmm sounds like some one likes land more than peace!  And no treaty proposed, ver strange eh razor, you puppet!





I sent Km this message

"We are 12 players, you can attack us, yet you will not rise higher. More or less, we will be in a dead lock.
Again, if this is a matter of too many players, then lose your alliance with peace alliance.

We should not have to be victim to your many allies aswell.

I do not want a war, and i think diplomacy is the best way, surely you must have a clan member limit that will be best for all of us?"

he replied:

"Tue, 23 Nov 2004 17:13:06 -0800From Kilk''s Marauders (#28) (?)
We''ve been in this situation more times than you I believe...Early game deadlocks are virtually non-existant. Usually one always comes out on top...

I never said anything about Peace Alliance or a war. Peace and I have a personal agreement, and I will honor that.

There is no clan member limit that is best for anyone at this point. Do what you will with your numbers."


Again, failed at peace!  I wonder is it my fault or Km's.  Wait, let's be more logical, Km was here for X amount of years.  Therefor he must be right, stupid me.



Last message I sent to Km
"You know what our clan policies are, you were aware of them from the start, and you agreed to it.

Therefor, I can no longer act this way, I have to stand up for our clans ideology, voted by the people for the people.

If you attack us, then it is you that will force a retaliation, not I.

Again,before this gets out of hand, think about your actions.


*And the power they took from the people will return to the people*"




-Here I tried desperately to save the situation, yet it was too late.



As for Km, you are the one flaming, you just called me an idiot.


This was a pm from razorclaw

Without clouding the forums, you're bitter, I'm bEtter, too bad for you.


Please do not Pm me.  Again, flaming.  



I have made my case, and the rest is a popularity contest.

You broke the alliance
I misspoke about the treaty, but we were allied
You did
Kilk, I believe, in retaliation for your large amounts of attacks.

OMG! YOU"RE SERIOUS.  Ask Km, no really do it, I will post our conversations in another post.  I tried ten times to salvage the alliance.

I don't understand the second part.

Km hit us first with two attacks, but good try any way.

So you admit it, good, debate over.  I knew the breaking of the treaty would lead to this, it was amatter of time.  Km hits us twice, then we hit you more, then you hit us even more, etc.etc, etc, etc.  Km knew this, but did not care.  People should look at the history of attacks, your numbers were as great as ours.

I even proposed a treaty, a hit limit, yet Km never replied.

You are a puppet, nothing more.  You have no idea what is going on.  

 This is a wate of time, this is a popularity contest, not a debate.  Please tell me what happened.

Who broke the alliance?
What treaty was made?
Who attacked first?
Who planned the assasination?

 Oh! REALLY!  I'm sorry, please as the leader of D.E. tell me what you did?  I know what happened, so does the members of Km.

We allied, and Km broke the alliance.  Ask him, I'm sure you will be well informed.


Seconldy, what treaty?  Can I see it please?  Where is my signature?

There was no treaty, only a failed alliance, which I tried to save ten times.

Km admitted to the planned assasination, so there is no debate.

The problem was, it was three hits on us, 7 on them, 12 on us, 20 on them, etc, etc.  I told Km this would happen, yet he did not care.

 He broke the alliance, I asked him for peace 10 times, he rejected.  He attacked us in order to cripple, not for land grabs.  He was also planning on "Cutting the head of D.E.", so I tried to kill him first.

I can send you all messages in which, Km says his clan is second to himself and he only cares about beiong in the top three.  

He is land hungry, that is why he broke our alliance, and considers D.E. a threat to his place as number one.

This is a game, and I take it with a light heart, yet people should not post on things they have no idea about.  Well you can, but It will make you look stupid.

I have given my clan to a friend, he will still make it a democracy.

I will be back in the same position in a week, the game is still fresh.

You can kill me, perhaps a few members, yet democracy will not die.  As long as men die, liberty will never perish!

 you all know the Josh guy?

I'm friends with his brother, lol, seriously, he lives in Canada, Almonte..../

 ATTENTION
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JOIN DEMOCRATIC EMPIRES
   I am not a dictator....I am not in that business, I want to help clan members if possible.  We all want to help each other, human beings are like that.  We want to live by each others happiness, not each others miseries.  This clan can be free and beautiful, and Redwall is rich and plentiful and can provide for everyone.  But........we have lost the way, ....the greed of clans has fought it's way into our lives, they trap us with there hate, starves us with there blood shed, and cripple us with there fear.  We are victims of a system that make men torture....to us victims I say:  do not despair, the day of greed is passing, the bitterness of clans that fear the way.  The day of the dictator's will die and the power they took from the people will return to the people....and so long as men die liberty will never perish......  

   Soldiers, don't give your selves to these clans, men who despise you, who enslave you, tired you, regiment your lives.  Clans who TELL YOU, what to do, what think, how to feel.  DON'T GIVE YOUR SELVES TO THESE UNNATURAL CLANS, with there machine minds and machine hearts, you are not machine you are MEN!

   Soldiers don't fight for slavery, fight for liberty!  In our clan, you the people have the power, the power to think, to feel, to live, TO MAKE THIS CLAN FREE AND BEAUTIFUL.  THEN IN THE NAME OF DEMOCRACY, LET US USE THAT POWER, LET US ALL UNITE!  Let us use this power to fight for these things, the things that let us be individuals, that give us security and peace of mind.  By the PROMISE of these things brutes have risen to power.  BUT THEY LIE, they don't fulfill there promises, they never will.  DICTATORS FREE THEM SELVES, BUT THEY ENSLAVE THE PEOPLE!  NOW LET USE FIGHT TO FULFILL THAT PROMISE, to do away with clan barriers and greed, let us fight for a clan of reason, where voting ,and debating are not just words, they are our RIGHT!

                      SOLDIERS, IN THE NAME OF DEMOCRACY, LET US ALL UNITE!
You do not have to join our clan if, you do not have one, just ally your self with us as an individual.

 This isn't like the US election, Proposals are given a certain amount of time to vote on, not three months.  Each proposal is a plan on how to act, so it doesn't mean that we vote on every single event.  What we vote on is a universal strategy, that can be applied to all members, for all scenarios.  So for example, if it is seen that a clan member is allowed to defend them selves from aggressors, then they do that based on the situation.  They do not say "Should I attack this X guy ?  Can we vote?", of course this would take up WAY too much time.

Again, we vote on proposals, and proposals are very general, universal orders.

Note:  If people do not vote on the deadline then, the remainding votes will be counted, and the proposal will be based on those votes.  We will not wait for every person, that's just stupid.  Each person is expected to log in atleast once a day.

 Uh....you forgot the last swear word.  It still hurts my eye's when I look at it.  :(

In all fairness I did not know putting **** in between "swear" words was not allowed, is that a rule?



I think It was the first poster of this thread that used the word, ....well I can not say, but It was aimed at an Admin..   It began with the letter J ended with a K and is meant to convey the idea that someone does things out of spite.

 "Edit:It is more interesting when people insult people for insulting people. Do NOT swear on this forum! WB "


I find it more interesting  how people think the word ("ANT EAT*R" ) is insulting or a swear word, it is a proper medical term.  By your logic, doctors around the world should apologize for using such profanity.

Secondly, I will not argue with you further, I just want to know one thing.  How the "Chipmunk" (did I get that right?) are other people allowed to call Admin. Jerks, yet I can not use the word (Ocean liner)?


Edit: Edit: Repeating a word I just took out but this time putting *******s around the word does not change the word. And NO, INsults to the staff for doing their job is never alowed.

You just got a warning!

Wolf Bite

 Yes, I am sure you wouldn?t like me for picking out your fascination of cartoon boys in body armor.  (removed) I'm pretty sure I would be up in arms too.  

Secondly, How am I obsessed with (Kangaroos)?  I am not the one with the picture of ( a Great hero) .

Lastly, I am surprised you are all still here, I mean really, I thought an Admin. would have more back bone, this is just sad.  If I was the Admin., I would close this thread, delete all posts, and ban you all.  Th main reason being; having such retarded arguments, and insulting the Admin..
P.S.
I don't want to make enemies (too late for that) but for Christ sake, It is bloody sad seeing half my screen covered with these (Great art work).   It is a waste of time and a waste of precious Jules of energy scrolling down a post covered in 1 % content (if I can use that word so loosely) and 99% seizure inducing graphics.

This whole thread could of been better written by a six year old with down syndrome.


Edit: And this Admin does not like spending time fixing other peoples posts. Please no personal insults. WB

 lol, God your so linear, great work detective.  No, I just signed up two days ago, and had no clue (until I read this thread) who Josh was.  Did my support of the Admin. make you think I was Josh?  The same Admin. that banned him, really ....use your head.  I am just annoyed how retarded this thread is, people literally spending hours on this inane topic, while not contributing anything.  Such as the last half of the first post.  Secondly, In any other forum you people would be banned, seriously, it is not in your interest calling Admin. names, such as "Jerks".  Lastly, you do not become Japanese by posting pictures of anime characters.  It also doesn't make your points or ideas somehow better either.  It is !@#$ annoying seeing half my screen covered by some guys fetish of little boy cartoon characters in body armor.