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I don't see how what is happening is land locking like you see it. If we wanted to, we would have an EASY time dropping all our land to Land Farm and then taking it all up, as well as something like $400m NW, effectively moving us out of range. We're not doing that--we're just playing normally. It's not my fault or anyone in Question's fault either. We're not unbreakable; just focus a bit more to defeat us.

-Someone had to
-A few of which I organized, and he's been around longer.
-Depends on which crowd you're looking at. As a leader, I'm more respected than he is by ~half the experienced players, he's more respected than I am by the other half, and most of the newbies haven't a clue on who to ally with, so basically none have any real respect for either of us.
-Again, I've organized a few, and he's been around longer.

The one thing you forget is how many times I've been in #1 until "the end", when I send away most/all of what I have either in order to do a takedown or because someone else deserves that win. A few other times now, I've made it my purpose to either keep others from winning or to ensure someone I want will win. Last round, #21, the reset took place over a week later than it was always said it would be reset. If memory serves, there were even in-game messages from Shael about the reset. Round #20, I was solo and didn't receive any help from anyone, yet finished up as the #3 player or #4 warlord. The round prior to that, #19, I was the #2 player or the #6 warlord, with only Marell (stacked with troops) finishing ahead of me. Round #16, I, Physics 1001, did OK. None of the finishes were #1, but a good number of them were playing anonymously or passively with great success.

So you don't respect me as a person--fine with me. As I outlined, I have plenty of valid bad points for "social skills", meaning I WILL be disliked by a lot of people. I'm callous, I'm dry, but I'm effective. However, I have a good bit of "evidence" that backs up what I say. I've never won a round--true. I've come in second and third being passive, but no, I've never taken #1 in Turbo. A good bit of this had been the end of last year, when I wasn't playing to win, as a passive or anonymous player can't really be expected to take #1. I've contributed majorly to the winner of rounds. If last would have ended on time, the Emp would have had a few land and Army would have won. A day later, I would have been emp and Army would still have won. A week later, 2/3 of the "emping" team from Army are gone because I dropped my land and Cody didn't spend a turn (and thus died). Of course, Trident did no better than Army. I seem to remember them distinctively worse. I ran the Round 9 "Make Shadow #1" scheme, without which a clan would have got #1. Fine with me, really, as we had had a logistical nightmare, yet Shadow won with $150m extra NW over #2 and that wasn't his own doing.

Now then--I've had a few of my own students doing pretty well. Their diplomacy is their own business, unless they join a non-teaching team or I partner with them for a round to demonstrate a few things they want to learn.

The assertions that Shadow was using me as a pawn was Snare trying to get under my skin. I asked Shadow to join Woof, and I made all the major decisions in Woof. It's true that Shadow handled many details of leadership for me as Asst. Leader, because I just couldn't be there that much, but every major move Woof made was made at my decision. Woof was my clan, Shadow was my Assistant Leader. Even when I was out of the clan, trying to lock land, he still was conferring with me about what the clan should be doing.

Just for the record.

Also for the record, we didn't use Firetooth, he was a big help to us, and he got helped out by Woof in return. He and his clan did amass a huge NW under cloak on Wiseclaw.

Firetooth, don't leave, it's true that you used to annoy me at times, but since you've been here, you've become a valuable forum member and a good player. I'd be happy to work with you any time.

Reread what I said. I don't consider you or your more experienced compatriots as "pawns". If memory serves, I never once said it, especially as time passed. Now then--the other half of my decision to "switch" sides was I found the players to be more tolerable to work with. I'm not going to lie and say I get along perfectly with everyone. I get along well enough and I have more respect for them for various reasons. And what I was saying comparing Shadow's and my own leadership styles is that we're both leaders, though we have different qualities that make us such. I'm dry and I prefer to run a tight ship. If you want to have some fun and drama, hop aboard. I'm not afraid of consequence, especially when it serves my own purposes or a plan I support. I'm open to questions, suggestions, and general conversation from anyone I work with or teach.

Modesty is not my best quality. I'm irritable, I'm critical, I'm quite abrasive, I'm ambitious, I'm competitive, I'm unsentimental, and I'm frank. I know that--I'm sure you've experienced quite a bit of that. It's part of who I am, and I'm not changing. I have no reason to change, especially when for all of those "offensive" qualities, I'm quite good analyzing, I'm competent, innovative, and rather creative. I'm a rationalist; I will only ever act like someone else for my own devices. If I think it'll be fun, odds are I'll do it. Beyond that, I know that I'm assertive and in many ways authoritative. Is that a coincidence? I think not: I lead people who want to have fun playing. [haties]--half the reason I constantly fight is because being friends with everyone is no good. Now here's a revelation: I'm an INTJ. Here's some informative reading.

INTJs apply (often ruthlessly) the criterion "Does it work?" to everything from their own research efforts to the prevailing social norms. This in turn produces an unusual independence of mind, freeing the INTJ from the constraints of authority, convention, or sentiment for its own sake... INTJs are known as the "Systems Builders" of the types, perhaps in part because they possess the unusual trait combination of imagination and reliability. Whatever system an INTJ happens to be working on is for them the equivalent of a moral cause to an INFJ; both perfectionism and disregard for authority may come into play... Personal relationships, particularly romantic ones, can be the INTJ's Achilles heel... This happens in part because many INTJs do not readily grasp the social rituals... Perhaps the most fundamental problem, however, is that INTJs really want people to make sense.

I'm modest: it's my best quality, just behind my classic good looks, witty remarks, and my fabulous sense of humor. And enjoy my presence while it lasts: I won't be here to irritate you forever. On top of all that, my antisocial behavior manages to drive away quite a few sorts of people. It's so awesome though; they can't stand me, I can't stand them, everyone wins! So my dear Sharptooth, Firetooth, Shadow, and to some extent even Marell, I love you all. Hugs and kisses all around.

Forever yours,
Bob-sama

:-*


EDIT: Oh, Marell, I think you deserve a bit of a response, with less sarcasm.

People work with Shadow because he is a good team player, is friendly and charismatic. He does not take advantage of anyone. People like him, people don't like you. Its as simple as that.
I remember Shade tried this old arguement a year or so ago. Tried to convince me that Shadow was using Kell and myself as pawns back in the time of Eire. Even sent me doctored messages trying to prove it. Sure, using psychology like this to try to split a good team up can work pretty well sometimes, but its not the most respectable tactic.

Btw we never intended to harm OH unless we thought they were helping you guys (which at times it seemed they were). Where does this talk of us intending to "crush" them come from.

I'm not saying he's using you or Volkov as pawns, but I know all too well that a year ago, Firetooth and Company were pawns for the both of us. Now then--the reason that I perceive for people wanting to follow me are because I'm rational under fire, I push efficiency and teamwork, and I'm dedicated leading. I don't take advantage of others either--you stick around long enough, and you'll become the center of some plan or plot, so long as you are active. And enough people dislike each of us to give us competition. I was not sarcastic when I said I'm an INTJ: I'm a rationalist and commonly a mastermind. We have different tools for leadership, but it's leadership none the less. I have no shortage of allies and I have no shortage of enemies.

I started posting in the Game Tutorial Workshop my changes to the in-game help page. I already finished Clans and Cluny's Hut, so check those out and tell me if I forgot anything. I've got quite the to-do list...

Clan page is broken--spitting a blank page to me at least.
In addition, players keep being bumped to the bottom list as if they were vacationing.

You appeared at the bottom of the scores. It looked like you were going on vacation after taking all the land. It turned out to be a scores readout bug, which I realized after I posted (hence the edit). I posted it here so that people would have a chance to take the land this time. Turns out it was not needed. And as for why Who are You is Bob-sama, that is 99% sure, both from your presence here now and from your writing and play style. If this is wrong, my appologies, but all the current evidence points to you, considering I know the identities of every other player who is online at the moment ^_^.

I'll tell you this right up--I don't like being accused. Regardless of identities, it is my opinion that you had no basis in which to accuse me. I'll be up-front. I'm Who Are You?. Do I really deny it? Nope. Why did I imply against that before? Because I doubt your judgment in your accusation.

As for the rest, meh. The whole white horse persona is something you fools gave me, I didn't foster it myself. Whatever helps you sleep at night. You have a history of code abuse, which is why people jump to these conclusions when you are involved in apparent code errors. The knee jerk reaction was because if you were going on vacation, I wanted to get the most out of the 12 hours, which means I needed to be speedy.

Actually I just made it up. Probably existed before, but it was the best way to say that you're all mouth and no game, at least at this point. As for having a "history of code abuse", I also have a history for finding and pointing out various glitches and errors. My primary job since the reset has been spotting bugs and telling them to someone who can fix them. If I really wanted to abuse code like you think I do, I'd have never mentioned the fact that I could move to Pearl Holder county, and in turn reveal that I'd have had the 2.0 play bonus. That's one of dozens of examples from before I "abused" and until after I "abused". Besides--you could have checked if I was in fact going into vacation or if it was a readout bug by asking.

And there are certainly better places to bring it, but you seem to have blocked me on msn, so this is all I've got ^_^  This is not a privte witch hunt against you, I would have posted this had anyone else done the same thing. It just so happens that you are one of the only ones wwho would do such a thing in general :P Again, I had not noticed people going to the bottom of the scores while active - if I had, I would have thought nothing of it.

What I do with my MSN isn't your business. Blocked or not, we haven't had a need to discuss anything through the medium, so I removed you from the list. If you really wanted to talk to me, I'm sure that there are others that have both of us on their MSN, so you could have asked/told them to invite us into a group conversation. Or, you could have snet a message through Regular or Turbo, provided you know who I am in either or both. Third, you could have messaged me through the forums.

[quotes]Question's 'powerhouse' tactics are the result of a strategy that myself and wolf bite worked out together in order to test the 40% troops sharing thing when it was implemented, and a decent idea of teamwork. At the time, troop sharing was broken so it didn't work, but now it is certainly viable. It is made up of good players, so you might be able to pull it off this time with the defenses fixed.[/quote]
Actually I was unaware you already worked on the strategy like that. I know I pulled the topic up and it was supposedly just a readout bug, but you can never be too sure about that.

I'm curious as to when you went around to the "Shadow is evil incarnate view" held by half of the forum. We used to be such good friends, heh.

Now I am not going to moderate this topic myself for obvious reasons, but please stay civil.

The primary reason? Because I remembered back to some of our more interesting conversations about strategy. I know you don't like Firetooth or Sharptooth as much as you let on. No offense, but they're rather useless strategists in this game. A year ago or so, when we still worked together, we used them as little more than drones. In effect, they and others were of little use, and their own happiness as a result from your plans, my plans, or our plans was an often unfortunate and unintended consequence. I can't remember a time that they ever said "no". Let's face it--they were vulnerable and they were handy. I started to dislike you when I saw you do things that I thought harmed Redwall overall. Hell--the major reason that I abused code a few months ago was because I saw that Ereptor had no intention to stop with the death-grip. It scares away newer players, who we especially need to at least keep Redwall surviving. If I would have had my full way, the opposition would have taken the land and started murdering and subsequently releasing Ereptor's land and networth into the rest of the game. That didn't happen--oh well. I didn't think out the plans too closely and so it was my fault. But through it all, I didn't feel that you were doing anything good for the game. You can make the argument that nor do I--what do I do? I try teaching. When I can't teach, I use my prowess to keep newbies out of harms way. OH was never a threat to you last round, yet "your side" intended to crush them. Beyond Ungatt's occasional help and Briar learning directly from me, the rest of OH's members were of no consequence to you. Until just a few days ago even, Briar and everyone else was not involved in BlackFly/U, or whatever you want to call our organization.

Just like you to make unfounded accusations. I just love the fact that you're willing to throw me under the bus no matter what has happened. A few things--one is prove that I'm Who Are You?. There are dozens of others it could be in various time zones, and to the best of my knowledge, nobody has been able to espionage them. Second is prove that Who Are You? is committing code abuse. I remember last time you pulled this bullshit out, and I ended up giving a total 36 hour window to take as much land as wanted. It wasn't my fault then, and I'm pretty sure it's not a player's fault this time, even if they were going into vacation mode. I noticed a few other warlords in the past few days whose ranks took the effects of vacation yet were entirely active. Third, what would the point for any warlord to go on vacation so early in the round? Whatever land is gathered is the least of what will come in the coming days. You can't seriously think that someone can "run off" with the game with anything less than a dream-team of active and motivated players. To the best of my knowledge, Question's powerhouse antics are a result of a good start and perhaps superior skills.

By the way--I really do appreciate your jackassery and knee jerk reactions. Get some control over your emotions and you will be a better player overall. Not everything is about riding your white horse in gleaming, polished armor, calling out "cheater" because of a mild suspicion and an already-demonstrated read-out bug. If you have a problem with how I play or how Who Are You? plays, report it to an administrator and request that they be investigated for code abuse. There are better places to bring accusations then public.

How about EU/AU v. NA?

EU/AU:
-Firetooth
-Shpartooth
-Marell
-Holby
-Ashrya
-Oblit
-TheSpaceman
-Some others you forgot.

North America:
-Volk
-Windy
-Ereptor
-Bob
-Ungatt
-Krazilec
-Briar
-Haydee
-Mr Baest
-Riddick
-Red Fang?
-Peace Alliance
-Wolf Snare
-Some others I/we forgot.

I don't know if it's entirely broken, but troop sharing isn't working properly anymore. In short, custom sharing percentages have no effect. In my clan, 40% sharing is only showing as 10% sharing, so either readout is broken or it's only 10% of my forces being shared.

Let's take a breather for now. Maybe we can try the International War thing, but for now I'd like to sit back, have some fun, and teach.

Interesting. Oh well--no use crying over a thousand-gallon tanker of spilled milk.

EDIT: By Windy's request... "Oh well--no use crying over 10.8 million gallons of milk spilled near the Prince William Sound".

The round hasn't started over on the 28th for several months. Just putting that fact out there.

Doesn't matter if it starts on the 28th, it matters if it ends on the 28th.

How about this; you try to achieve a nice goal while Woof and BlackFly/U bash each others brains out? That's about the most of the help that I'd personally give you. Find something to do, do it, and then look back on what you learned and do something else. So long as you give it a bit of effort, you'll only learn more. But yes, going peaceful is easy enough for a newbie. An established player who pisses off other established players will not get off so easily. Take the leniency while it's present.

Thanks for clarifying, Gorak. So it WAS around a lot longer than I thought. That's fine though. I know Kyle didn't teach it to me (we were too balled up in Wildcat, which was basically a lot of everything) and I know that the spend+aid strategy was around. At least a few of us have developed a strategy that worked well and already existed, without ever knowing what the "original" was. Anyways--whatever. This round really should have ended on the 28th (IMO). It's getting a bit stale now overall.